Most Muslims don't view jihad as a violent thing. Jihad is a struggle or resistance to support a good cause. There are guys waging jihad against litter. Seems like a pretty reasonable thing to say about your position, you are struggling against something you see as unjust or evil with a blind religious fervor that pushes you to alienate reasonable people like me who have found some of your content thoughtful. You seem to know a lot about me. I don't know what picture I found threatening but I do know what an info graphic is and I know that a hog's head isn't bacon. Takes me back to your need to take a basic rhetoric class. You want to persuade people that they shouldn't eat meat so you post a bloody hogs head and call it bacon. To someone who isn't on board with your crusade that's just dumb, it's not bacon, it's a hog's head. So someone showed you where bacon was and you got snitty. Snitty doesn't persuade either, you belittled their picture of where the parts of the hog are. I got annoyed at your belittling, I know what an info graphic is and I know what it's function is, it isn't there to be cute, it's there to be informative. So I called your nonsense out. It's really outside the debate on animal ethics, it really comes down to credibility, that which you shed when abandon careful use of ethos, pathos and logos in favor of hysterical snittyness. I'm not here to tell you what to say but to maybe to clue you in to a better way of saying it. Cicero was the fourth most powerful man in the greatest age of Rome and all he had was his pen and his tongue. If you want to persuade people take some rhetoric classes, otherwise it looks like you just want to be an angry spamming jerk. I suppose you could take marketing classes but marketing and marketers are the devil and it's not a way I'd chose to go. I really don't care if I persuade you to learn how to get people to listen to you, you're a hysterical spammer so filled with religious zeal that I would prefer you just went away.It is disgusting, that you'd go as low as comparing a form of activism which calls for stopping unnecessary cruelty with a violent type of war, which is what jihadists are known for.
You're obviously not prepared to analyse your way of living. You are bothered by it because its forcing you to look at what you try so hard to ignore. It's ironic that you find a picture of what you eat, threatening to your way of living.
And for the 100th time, if you aren't vegan and you're trying to tell me how best to get the message across - then just tell me what to say to you, and I'll say it back, and then you'll go vegan right? Yeah, I didn't think so.
How humble of you to think of yourself as reasonable. I wonder who doesn't. In your mental contortion to attack me and ignore the subject you've overlooked a pretty important detail in your comparison -- religion is based on belief while veganism is based on facts. You accuse me of "blind religious fervour" but you're the one who follows the religion of carnism because you were indoctrinated into it while I consciously chose against it after being presented with facts. Did it even cross your mind why would someone be prepared to stand up and take the avalanche of shit thrown at them by people like you? Did you wonder if they would do that if they didn't feel so strongly compelled that they are doing something so crucially important for humanity and the planet as a whole that it is worth the social suicide that comes with it and even necessary to ruffle some feathers sometimes? I don't know, it's just an idea. I know what it is like to be a meat eater. I was one. I know that it's not pleasant to have your beliefs challenged. But now I also know that it's necessary as time is not on our side. Don't pretend to be a fool, you're too smart for that. You know too well that a bloody decapitated pig's head is the consequence of your bacon. And that the graphic wasn't posted to inform anyone about where bacon comes from but as a condescending joke and provocation. It was a hilarious joke in fact because you see, killing someone for no other reason than selfish pleasure is funny. In fact, particularly psychopaths find that fucking hilarious. Yes, absolutely, well done and congratulations for defending murder and using all of that precious brain power to distract yourself hatting me, while you could be educating yourself on how to live healthier while reducing pollution and resource use and eliminating unnecessary cruelty. If I'm the dumb one and I have figured this out, imagine what a smart guy/gal like you could do with it. Oh I see, that's completely different. So all you want is me to learn how to educate you. Aaah, now I get it, you're just being a nice friend kindly guiding me in the right direction. Boy am I lucky to have a friend like you. Service announcement, I am NOT your pet to tame. Know that the inconvenience my shitty posts cause to your comfortable daily life, cannot be compared to the short lives of caged enslavement and pain you contribute to by consciously choosing to eat and wear beings that did nothing to you. Don't listen to me, use a bit of critical thinking, do some research and free yourself from the supremacist status quo that is killing billions and squandering resources while damaging our precious environment and your own health. You can close your eyes and shut your ears and you may stop hearing from me, but you won't stop the wave that is coming. Ignorance in disguise of tradition and culture has ruled too long. The same energy that fought slavery, that fought for women's rights and blacks rights is now fighting against mindless and selfish cruelty. Vegans will not stop fighting for what's right. And deep down you know what is right. I hope one day you have the courage to act on it. Love you.you are struggling against something you see as unjust or evil with a blind religious fervor that pushes you to alienate reasonable people like me
You seem to know a lot about me.
I don't know what picture I found threatening but I do know what an info graphic is and I know that a hog's head isn't bacon. [...] I know what an info graphic is and I know what it's function is, it isn't there to be cute, it's there to be informative.
So I called your nonsense out. It's really outside the debate on animal ethics, it really comes down to credibility, that which you shed when abandon careful use of ethos, pathos and logos in favor of hysterical snittyness.
I'm not here to tell you what to say but to maybe to clue you in to a better way of saying it.
I really don't care if I persuade you to learn how to get people to listen to you, you're a hysterical spammer so filled with religious zeal that I would prefer you just went away.
btw, I'll keep up this "discussion" as long as you like, It's what your really out for after all. If you like I can dial it up or down depending on how much bile you feel like getting out. Seems positively insane, as all I really cared about was you spamming a shit ton of post out and then getting snitty over the fact that it was pointed out that one in particular was dumb and not going to change anyone's mind. But I can tell, you got some venom to let out, you need some shit to mutter into your pillow at night, so if it gets you hard keep it coming.
You act like you want to convince people to not eat meat but you go about it in a way that makes you a spamy dick, which is no way to convince people. The evidence shows that you just like wallowing in your self rightness and have no interest in converting people to veganism. I think you just enjoy raging against the injustice and have no interest making real change in the world. Enjoy your anger. I never once argued against veganism against you and you might be right about some of it. It's something I've thought about whilst I've reduced the amount of meat I eat. I only object to your methods, which are crass and counter your actual goals. Have fun thinking about what a great person you are compared to all us meat eaters as you alienate your self from society and insure that you have no real effect on the issue that you hold so dear. You like funny jokes? How do you know when there is a vegan in the room? Don't worry, they'll let you know.