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galen  ·  3468 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: IRC, STOUT AND WINERAMA, 11:00 p.m. EDT Monday, June 1.

Theme suggestion!

Loaded: "The Dangers of Ideology"

Otherwise: "Ideology"





nowaypablo  ·  3467 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'll be at West Point for the week and might log in from there. This'll be fitting!

user-inactivated  ·  3468 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Ideology is the most dangerous thing there is.

lil  ·  3464 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Great idea. Please prepare an opening statement that offers usable definitions of "ideology" and "danger." Of course one person's danger is another's salvation.

Just kidding about the opening statement. -- actually not kidding. IRC is such a zoo of public and private conversations that nothing ever gets seriously said, but ideology is a topic worth understanding. How can we live without an ideology of some sort -- or is "ideology" much more than just a set of guiding principals?

    The danger of political zealotry was recognized by William Graham Sumner in 1934, a few years after Hitler published Mein Kampf. Sumner said, “If you want war, nourish a doctrine. Doctrines are the most frightful tyrants to which men are ever subject, because doctrines get inside of a man’s own reason and betray him against himself.”

“Ideology is a specious way of relating to the world. It offers human beings the illusion of an identity, of dignity, and of morality while making it easier for them to part with them." Vaclav Havel

lil  ·  3464 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I've just been reading this article called "Journey to Jihad" from The New Yorker. The New Yorker seems to let me in to read articles. Maybe you too. The article is about teenagers from Belgium who are recruited to fight in Syria and Iraq. Teenagers, like you. Are you susceptible to ideology? is nowaypablo going to be thoroughly ideologized once he sets foot in West Point?

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/06/01/journey-to-jihad

galen  ·  3463 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Reading this now. See you in 15

OftenBen  ·  3464 days ago  ·  link  ·  

If I were an admissions officer at any military institute, I'd be very interested in my candidates online identity. Someone like pabs is, from my understanding, too much his own person to be heavily influenced by the ideological goals of West Point.