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ARS  ·  3511 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: David Graeber: Dickheads: The paradox of the necktie resolved

There is no genetic component regulating how an individual reacts to people in suits, but there is still some merit in the idea. Some individuals are more suggestible than others (google "Suggestibility personality trait") and may be more influenced by individuals in positions of power than others.

In western culture, a person in a suit is normally someone who is important because of their knowledge, power, wealth, ect. This is a stereotype that people have been exposed to from a young age. This is especially true as students typically see teachers who are usually dressed in a more professional manner. Thus, an individual who dresses in a suit may have an easier time convincing others that they have some authority by tapping into this (sub)conscious stereotype.

Also keep in mind the separation of labour: you do not see general laborers dressed in suits, but rather the people in charge of them (management) are usually required to wear more formal work clothing. While I think the division of labour is rather silly in its' modern form, the barrier between those who work with their hands and those that work with their minds is often reflected, in some degree, by the way they dress. This is the result of social, economic, and personal factors which impact all of us, every day.





thenewgreen  ·  3511 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    In western culture, a person in a suit is normally someone who is important because of their knowledge, power, wealth, ect. This is a stereotype that people have been exposed to from a young age.
Yes, and at a young age it is a slight of hand trick that may actually work on you. As you get older though, the effect certainly wears off. mk writes,
    Perhaps a more interesting question is not what a tie represents, but when and where is it expected, and when can you get away without it?
I think about this often. When I started my career in sales, I was mandated to wear a tie. This was selling at a company making commission only and my annual earnings were a fraction of what they are now. The higher that I moved up in the professional world, the higher my earnings potential rose, the less expected the tie became. There are only very rare meetings these days where I will wear a tie. VERY rare. The most I get dressed up these days is in a sports coat.

We now live in a society where the entrepreneur is celebrated more than the corporate CEO. The guys running startups, with ping-pong tables in the boardrooms and casual Friday, every day. That said, randomuser is right, wearing a suit for special events when you normally don't have to is fun. I had to wear a tuxedo earlier in the year and I'll be damned if I didn't feel like.... well, like randomuser said... James Bond.

James Bond with his Hubski spy cam

OftenBen  ·  3511 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The tuxedo hasn't changed in years and years because it looks good on everybody. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

thenewgreen  ·  3511 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I have often thought about how many ancillary, unneeded pieces of apparel that women are expected to wear and really, there aren't many for men.... except the neck tie.

randomuser  ·  3505 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It's also funny because I realized, when reading this that the only thing I have a lot of, attire-wise like women's and their "unneeded pieces of apparel," are ties.

My dress attire is as follows: 1 x blazer 1 x tux 1 x dress shoes 1 x nice leather belt (brown/black reversible, it's awesome) 2 x pairs or dress shoes ~8 x ties in different colors/hilarious design obscurities.

OftenBen  ·  3511 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    There is no genetic component regulating how an individual reacts to people in suits,

No KNOWN component anyway. We've proven that certain responses to certain stimuli can be transmitted from generation to generation.

It seems to me that there is bioplausibility if you count 'Seeing someone in a suit' as a stimulus.