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comment by bioemerl

Finally.

However, no real restrictions on agriculture, which is the thing using most of the water. They need to get that stuff to move away to where there is water, and not try to grasp onto an industry they shouldn't have any longer.





user-inactivated  ·  3524 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I've driven through the central valley a few times the past few months. Everything looks dead as it is, and as such it's hard to imagine that they aren't being restricted (perhaps price restriction). There are signs all up and down I-5 through this area that say "CONGRESS CREATED DUST BOWL"

signs blaming Nancy Pelosi and our senators

etc.

Considering how much food California throws to the rest of the US, a resurrection of the old crazy plan to pipe water from Alaska to California would be more likely to come about before moving the industry out. Probably cheaper in the holistic sense, as well.

kleinbl00  ·  3524 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Those signs have been there since 2009. Doesn't make 'em wrong... but that dust-up (sorry) happened in 2008.

bioemerl  ·  3523 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'd figure by 2015 we could deal with regions not getting rain. That water pipe from Alaska sounds like a good idea.

I mean, we probably have longer pipes for oil anyways. Get the keystone jobs without the keystone pipeline controversy.

coffeesp00ns  ·  3523 days ago  ·  link  ·  

it would be significantly more feasible to spread the fruit basket out across more states, rather than having the vast majority of the production in one place.

Also, stopping farming almonds would help. Same with alfalfa hay. Together they consume 25% o the state's water.

Meriadoc  ·  3523 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I recently found out we grow rice in California as well.

Fucking rice.

coffeesp00ns  ·  3523 days ago  ·  link  ·  

This is what happens when people stop thinking about environmental impact and just focus on what's easy. You already have the people, the infrastructure, and experience in California. From that standpoint you'd be crazy NOT to start your new crop in California. However, it means you're going to be throwing money at your landscape constantly to get it to and keep it at a point where it can support your crop.

Farm rice, almonds, etc where there's more water, like Louisiana or something. It would probably not cost any more money than what you've already spent to terraform the area appropriately and train people.

user-inactivated  ·  3523 days ago  ·  link  ·  

But it doesn't matter how much water you have if your climate can't adequately support the crop.

Louisiana may have water galore, but almonds ain't gonna do well with the humidity. Do farmers then build NASA greenhouses and pass on the associated build-and-maintain costs with increased food prices? Accept the climate they got and the accompanied lower yield (or higher risk of no yield, idk, I'm not a farmer), and again pass on the cost to food prices? These farmers are still capitalists and if it were cheaper and just as consistent or productive to farm elsewhere it probably would've been done already.

But I think it's probably good that the decision makers and engineers start looking at the water sourcing issues with more urgency anyway. They'll continue to grow more critical as the population grows, anyway. Relocating them would be a band-aid rather than the case study we have right now anyway, IMO.

coffeesp00ns  ·  3523 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I think that trying to source in water from Alaska is a band-aid, and a bad one at that. Fresh water is an incredibly finite resource on this planet, and piping it in from a continental distance away seems insane to me.

user-inactivated  ·  3523 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I agree, and I don't think it'll ever happen.

Realistically, we'll just ration until the drought "ends" and carry on with disregard.

katakowsj  ·  3523 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yep. I'm happy being in Michigan right now as I read this.

Yeah, it's the worst drought since 1950, but sixty-five years in a geologic time frame is not even a blink of an eye. Likely the rain and snow will shift from other nearby regions as the weather patterns revert to the mean.