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kleinbl00  ·  3563 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Pubski: February 25, 2015

    You need to ruthlessly go through the manuscript and cut it to 120,000 words rather than the 300,000 it now seems to contain.

- My editor, whose status is such that there's no possible way I can even vaguely quibble with his assessment

SO THAT'S GONNA BE A TREAT

On the plus side, the manuscript is only 177k words, not 300, so I don't have to cut out 180k words I only need to cut out 50k and make the remaining 120k EXTRA SPECIAL EXCITING.

And thanks to my research into the "John Kennedy Toole" mythos, I now have ample reason to just fucking edit the book instead of thinking I'm some misunderstood genius.

On unrelated note, I'm 30 minutes away from being a certified social media strategy expert, have learned more than I care to admit about the implementation of ADA2010 and a pretty good sense of construction prices in two different markets. All of which is knowledge I'm really looking forward to forgetting in about six months.





GorGorGorillaNeck  ·  3563 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hey if you end up blowing up like Stephen King, you can always go on and release an unabridged version The Stand style. Then you can revel in your excess.

kleinbl00  ·  3563 days ago  ·  link  ·  

This was the exact advice I got from Greg Bear last night...

elizabeth  ·  3563 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Where did you get your social media expert certification? I didn't even know that was even a thing... What kind of stuff do you even learn? Sounds interesting :)

kleinbl00  ·  3563 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Well, I haven't yet - like I said, half an hour away. But you get them from pretty much anyone who will sell one to you and they're worth substantially less than you pay. I'm doing it because I did the audio for the guy who did mine (long story, friend of a friend, etc) and since I could literally just do them in pro tools it wasn't much of a stretch to give me access to the certification course.

What you learn, basically, is how to do marketing in a universe where neither Adwords nor traditional marketing mean fuckall any longer.

elizabeth  ·  3563 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Oh well, ain't got no spare money to spend on that stuff right now. I guess I'll have to figure out Instagram by myself then ;) And with this stuff, it's hard to guess if you're getting scammed out of your money or not until you actually pay and look through the course. My boyfriend lost a couple thousands on these "everything you need to know about SEO" scam classes back in the day.

I hear facebook ads are creepily effective nowadays. Facebook knows way too much about us...

kleinbl00  ·  3563 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Speaking as someone who has seen the metrics on what you spend and what you get, if you spend a shit-ton you'll get... something.

The only reason I sat through it is a PR person wanted us to pay $500 a month for three Facebook posts and a newsletter. We would then have to pay $200 ea. to get the Facebook posts promoted. When I asked her for a case study where they did this and what they got, she jubilantly exclaimed that they'd spent $1800 on Facebook promotions in a month and gotten 750 likes, 6 requests for proposals and 4 clients. She was psyched about this. We were kind of gobsmacked that she wanted us to pay $2300 for 4 clients.

elizabeth  ·  3562 days ago  ·  link  ·  

If each client is worth a couple thousands, then I say it's worth it. But honestly, anyone with a little common sense can come up with a decent social media campaign. You're way better off taking the class than paying some lady (that might not even know exactly what she's talking about either).

People in my city can't even use Adwords properly... A lot of towing and cleaning services targeting the word "Montreal" on google. Not really the most effective way to spend your money since I mostly see them when I google "montreal weather" or "montreal restaurants". I click on their ad every time tho and think "I just made you pay a dollar for nothing!"