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thenewgreen  ·  3586 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: How did you find yourself?

I think you're confusing this entire thing as a conversation about veganism vs. meat eating. It's not, it's a conversation about how to have social etiquette, about how to best convey your thoughts and ideas in a way that will garner the most favor and effect your desired outcome.

For someone constantly asking people to "listen," you ought to try it too.





organicAnt  ·  3586 days ago  ·  link  ·  

We're going around in circles. I already explained what I thought about social etiquette:

    I won't apologise for not respecting the animal rights taboo. If I'm going to wait to discuss animal rights when I'm given a window by those abusing animals, I'll be waiting forever. Social etiquette does not trump discrimination in my books and I will be breaking social etiquette for as long as there is animal abuse.

I don't have anything new to add.

thenewgreen  ·  3586 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Remove the words "social etiquette" from my last comment and then reply. Your motive is sound but your methods suck.

EDIT: So what I'm asking is this: Do you actually think that the best way to help get people to become vegan, or to become more sympathetic towards your beliefs is to post cartoons and videos in comment threads that you're not participating in and that have nothing to do with the topic of health, diet or animal rights?

organicAnt  ·  3586 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No one is forcing you to put up with my "obnoxious" and "lazy" rudeness. If you or anyone feel so strongly against my methods why don't you ignore me, block me? That's what kleinbl00 did. It'd be a lot easier and healthier than having both our blood pressures raised. And when you finally decide to block me, ask yourself if you're doing it to avoid me or the subject at hand which deep down actually troubles you.

Edit: My honest answer to your edit is, YES, I do think this is the best way of calling attention to a crucial subjected that is regularly ignored, dismissed, smacked down. If nothing else for the historical record. When future generations researching the internet archive can see that not everyone stood placidly by while billions, BILLIONS of creatures were being abused just because, well they taste nice. Because let's be honest that is what it stems down to, putting our own pleasure ahead of another species well being and the stubbornness of the human ego to admit it. And then I'm the unreasonable, inconvenient one. Let the future judge that.

thenewgreen  ·  3586 days ago  ·  link  ·  

ANSWER THE QUESTION: Do you actually think you are changing hearts/minds when you do that? If not, what is the motivation? Attention?

Do you think there are better ways to achieve your ends?

If you don't answer the actual questions above, it will speak volumes.