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scarp  ·  4654 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Q&A about transgender people, gender identity, and gender expression.
I think you're onto something. I may have underestimated my own identity. For some context, I am a mixed race homosexual(ish) male, and that is something that I definitely had to address and 'come to terms with', so to speak. It is an identity wrinkle that I had to identify and iron out because it goes against the norm. But now I am so comfortable with that identity that it is just 'me.' Whatever interests and desires I have are an extension and expression of that self.

What I am trying to understand about the trans* identities is the idea that sex and gender are embodied by cultural norms and physical status symbols. If we strip away cultural context, do we still have men and women? The article admits that gender roles vary amongst societies. So it would seem to me that if a man feels uncomfortable in his society's male gender roles, then it is the society which much change, not the individual. I say this with fear of sounding presumptuous, but speaking honestly I think that the trans* community would do better to encourage more open-minded views on gender roles than to facilitate gender-affirmation procedures. That seems to be the root of the issue.





AnSionnachRua  ·  4654 days ago  ·  link  ·  
I have myself been struck by the notion that the trans community repeats wider society's notions of gender and sex rather than subverting them.*

Take the gender binary, for example; many say that they exist outside it or in between it - this repeats the notion that the gender binary exists in the first place.

*As a caveat, when I say this I mean that some parts of said community sometimes express these things - as is the case with any group/discourse, we can never truly say "these people do/say/are".

scarp  ·  4654 days ago  ·  link  ·  
    Take the gender binary, for example; many say that they exist outside it or in between it - this repeats the notion that the gender binary exists in the first place.

I actually don't see the contradiction there. I don't think the trans* community rejects the existence, or at least perceived existence, of the gender binary. It just does not accept it as it is generally posited to exist -- and nor do I. It is simply the acknowledgment that the issue is not black and white, so in that sense the gender binary is subverted.

AnSionnachRua  ·  4654 days ago  ·  link  ·  
Bad example, then.