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humanodon  ·  3675 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: An assortment of "rationalist fiction," plus a little background

How did you get turned on to this?





user-inactivated  ·  3674 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Went through a period where I obsessively searched for great Harry Potter fanfiction, actually. Trawled through thousands, found maybe six worth reading, one of which was HPMoR. Quickly realized it was unlike anything I had ever read, fanfiction or fiction, and dove into Yudkowsky's Sequences -- still descending -- and some stuff that gets linked on r/hpmor fairly often, like Worm.

user-inactivated  ·  3439 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Holy shit is ESY trying to make Harry a huge unlikeable asshole? 11 year olds dont act like this:

    Pointoutthatyouhavearighttoknow: Failure. Eleven-year-oldchildrendo nothaverightstoknowanything,inMcGonagall’seyes. Say that you will not be friends any more: Failure. She does not value your friendshipsufficiently. Point out that you will be in danger if you do not know: Failure. Plans have already been made based on your ignorance. The certain inconvenience of re- thinkingwillseemfarmoreunpalatablethanthemere uncertain prospectofyour comingtoharm. Justice and reason will both fail. You must either find something you have thatshewants,orfindsomethingyoucandowhichshefears... Ah. “Well then, Professor,” Harry said in a low, icy tone, “it sounds like I have something you want. You can, if you like, tell me the truth, the whole truth, and in return I will keep your secrets. Or you can try to keep me ignorant so you can use me as a pawn, in which case I will owe you nothing.” McGonagall stopped short in the street. Her eyes blazed and her voice descended into an outright hiss. “How dare you!” “ Howdareyou! ” he whispered back at her. “You would blackmail me?” Harry’s lips twisted. “I am offering you a favor. I am giving you a chance to protect your precious secret. If you refuse I will have every natural mo- tive to make inquiries elsewhere, not to spite you, but because I have to know! Get past your pointless anger at a child who you think ought to obey you, and you’ll realise that any sane adult would do the same! Look at it frommyperspective! HowwouldyoufeelifitwasYOU? ” Harry watched McGonagall, observed her harsh breathing. It oc- curred to him that it was time to ease off the pressure, let her simmer for a while. “You don’t have to decide right away,” Harry said in a more normal tone. “I’ll understand if you want time to think about my offer ... but I’ll warn you of one thing,” Harry said, his voice going colder. “Don’t try that Obliviation spell on me. Some time ago I worked out a signal, and I have already sent that signal to myself. If I find that signal and I don’t remember sending it...” Harry let his voice trail off significantly.
user-inactivated  ·  3439 days ago  ·  link  ·  

One of the primary "problems" of HPMOR is that ... is that ... spoilers. Dammit. Well. Keep reading if you want.

According to Yudkowsky, the first ten chapters are often considered the weakest, but if the story doesn't grab you after that, don't bother.

I will say that I have met many exceptionally intelligent, slightly robotic 11 year olds who lacked a formula to fall back on in social situations, and, yes, they did act kind of like that. The author was one of those kids. He's writing partially from experience. If you only read fiction in which you like the protagonist, it is quite possible you won't want to read HPMOR.

user-inactivated  ·  3439 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I don't have a problem with not liking the protagonist and the reinvention of the world is interesting enough to keep me reading but good god does Harry suck.

user-inactivated  ·  3439 days ago  ·  link  ·  

So do many (very) smart children.

user-inactivated  ·  3439 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I guess I've never met anyone like that.

user-inactivated  ·  3439 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I've started to read HPMoR and I absolutely hate Harry. I hope he doesn't talk like he is the subject of a /r/iamverysmart post for the whole novel.

humanodon  ·  3674 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hmm. The rabbit hole does lead to interesting places.

user-inactivated  ·  3674 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Unlikely as it may seem!