I agree that my examples aren't representative of everyone who serves. But I do think that the people who serve are probably not the kind of people pabs is used to spending time with, and that he would experience some culture shock. I also do believe that a profession which is about fighting is going to attract people who enjoy fighting. If we consider that I have dated some of these people, and recently, clearly we can infer that I am not saying they are people one shouldn't associate with - as I associate with "such types" myself relatively regularly.
Easier to infer that one shouldn't associate with them when you say stuff like between a list of other negatives. But point taken. Y'know, this probably encourages him more, considering his other posts in this thread.clearly we can infer that I am not saying they are people one shouldn't associate with
He is seriously probably the most sexist person I've consciously ever known.
But I do think that the people who serve are probably not the kind of people pabs is used to spending time with, and that he would experience some culture shock.
to the latter statement - It very well might. to the first statement - I at no point was attempting to say that two people I know are indicative of everyone who serves in the military. I even, when describing this same person, stated that he was probably crazy before he went into the military. My point was more to describe the impact that serving on active duty has had in their lives. I'm allowed to be honest in my description of the people who I know who have served in the military. At no point did I even come close to implying that the military had made this man sexist. This specific person? Yes, he shouldn't be associated with, and I choose not to associate with him. But you're hyperfocusing on half of my provided example. It's true. I know a bad man who was in the military. You know what? I bet he's not the only bad man who was in it, either. Doesn't in any way or at any time in my comment mean that I am saying they are all bad guys. But Pabst should be fucking prepared for the bad ones. I mean, I could get into the stories I've heard of soldiers burning dogs alive in Afghanistan, from people who have been there, but that's certainly not indicative of the entire military population either.
OK– Ultimate and utmost respect to you, I just need to make myself clear here so I tagged you in my comment to iamyownrushmore. Consider that (edit: sigh, now this too, I guess) my last statement in terms of argument about the subject. Furthering the disclaimer of my sincere, utmost respect for you. Seriously. I'm just gonna up and tell you that you've misunderstood me a lot, in terms of who I am. It may partially be from the fact that I talk about the best parts of myself on Hubski, and that when we met my mom was with me over-dressed in nice clothes, I was over-dressed in nice clothes, and again that my mom drove me to a rock concert offering an image quite like that of the whitest kid on the fucking face of the Earth edit: Universe. Also my Facebook profile is that of the world's most emasculated toddler. I'm not taking what you said to offense, or taking it personally in a negative way, I'm just clarifying. ftr. Have you ever been in a fight Pabst? Facts: No particular order. 1) I go to a public school. It's high-ranking cause it's the Ellis Island of Korea, and all the white kids pay $3,000 at a time for 3-week tutoring classes– I'm serious. I did not win the former genetic lottery, and did not win the cash lottery either. 2) Yeah, I've fucking been in fights before. Trust me. Alone, and in groups. Enough to learn the difference between when it is right to be in a fight, and when it is right to compromise or flee. I've been a varsity wrestler for 3 years and I run Spartan Races, if either of those are credible points to attest that I can deal with physical challenges. Either way, I think my motivation, will, and ability to learn to train for any physical challenge should be enough to cover that. 4) I know that at West Point I'm going to be surrounded by the most mentally tough young adults in the United States, as well as the most disciplined. I know that I'm going to be surrounded by some of the most physically enduring young adults on Earth. They will also be among the most intelligent young adults subject to of one of the most rigorous academic curricula in the country. As a second lieutenant in the U.S. Army, I'm going to be tasked with the immense responsibility of directing a large group (16-44 men and women) that may risk their lives at any point throughout my supervision of them. Sidenote: I have to double-check that white was in the army but if so, he could attest that this is even belittled by calling 2nd LT's "butterbars;" they're merely entry-level commissioned officers. From what I know, West Point sufficiently and outstandingly trains cadets, granted they are personally cable, for that responsibility. Those who aren't often wash out, often in the first 6 weeks. 5) Yes. I believe that there are going to be sick people in the Academy and in the Army. I believe that there are going to be sick people in the cubicle across from me at work, in the car in front of me in traffic, in the seat next to me on the plane, and in the desk behind me every day in every class at school. My upper-class NYC suburban environment doesn't protect me from any of that, neither do the forests Bumblefuck, upstate New York. I bet you'd be surprised to find out which area has more guns. 6) I'm sorry about both of your ex's, and much more so for the affect they had on you, because I know you more personally. I do not know the extent of the pain felt by a victim of PTSD, or the pain from the immediate perspective of those closest to one who is suffering from it. It's one of the main points I'm considering in dismissing my interest in the Academy.Who are your fellow soliders going to be, pabst? Do you think that you are going to be surrounded by educated, erudite, philosophical soldiers? Do you not think that a job whose responsibilities include potentially killing people might not attract people who may be interested in killing people? You're going to be surrounded by fighters. People who don't consider themselves fighters, and then others who do: people who do MMA, BJJ, who like physical combat.