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user-inactivated  ·  3733 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: America dumbs down: a rising tide of anti-intellectual thinking

More believable. Especially given ebooks and audiobooks.

But still. I worked in a library for five years. I know exactly what "books" these people are "reading" and I wouldn't get within spitting distance of any of them.





kleinbl00  ·  3733 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Ahh, but that's a critique of quality, not quantity.

let's be honest: Dan Brown is no shittier than James Fenimore Cooper or Charles Dickens. We're just denied the misty water-colored memory filter to put it in perspective.

The fact that Capital in the 21st Century has spent 21 weeks on the NYT best-seller's list is a sign to me that it's gonna be okay.

user-inactivated  ·  3733 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Here, though, is a real comment. I will ignore your opinion of Dickens as firmly and stoutly as I ignore your opinion of Asimov and (I think?) your opinion of Tolkien.

I was reading Bryson's Summer 1927 last week and he talked a bit about the bestselling books of the 1920s. He says it better than I, but ... it's all people you've never heard of, and Zane Grey. There was a crazy eugenics book which outsold all of Hemingway, or something along those lines. Past Sinclair Lewis, it's essentially a graveyard.

kleinbl00  ·  3733 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Interestingly enough, I tried to look up the NYT best-seller's list for 1927. I failed. So I looked it up for summer 1978, the year in the article above.

It's got some great shit on it.

user-inactivated  ·  3733 days ago  ·  link  ·  

46 weeks on the list for Silmarillion. Favorite book and I actually had no idea. Wow.

user-inactivated  ·  3733 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    let's be honest: Dan Brown is no shittier than ... Charles Dickens. We're just denied the misty water-colored memory filter to put it in perspective.

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I have no idea what to say to this. I'm physically affected by that statement. Help I don't feel right

kleinbl00  ·  3733 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to Heaven, we were all going direct the other way - in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only.

Lion of English Literature

    Renowned curator Jacques Saunière staggered through the vaulted archway of the museum's Grand Gallery. He lunged for the nearest painting he could see, a Caravaggio. Grabbing the gilded frame, the seventy-six-year-old man heaved the masterpiece toward himself until it tore from the wall and Saunière collapsed backward in a heap beneath the canvas.

Scourge of English Literature

user-inactivated  ·  3733 days ago  ·  link  ·  

First of all, yes, and second of all, Dan Brown can do a hell of a lot worse. And has. I know of what I speak, unfortunately.

Dickens created some of the most moving scenes in the history of literature. The only thing Angels and Demons ever moved was my -- well.

kleinbl00  ·  3733 days ago  ·  link  ·  

First of all, yes, Dan Brown is shit.

But so is Dickens.

Dickens is shit.

So is Jane Austen.

The only difference between the two is if you say Dan Brown is shit you're a genius and if you say Jane Austen is shit you're a troglodyte.

Back it up 150 years, though...

user-inactivated  ·  3733 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    “He scarcely ever passes from the humourous and external to the emotional and tragic, without becoming as transcendent in his unreality as he was a moment before in his artistic truthfulness.”

I've read every Dickens novel your average guy on the street can name, and then some, and this is total crap. He was quite good at exactly this. Hurts to see George Eliot say that.

I don't find any of those criticisms terribly convincing. Dickens' greatest fault was his occasional over-over-verbosity. His characterizations were often brilliant and almost always very apt. They were essentially stereotypes, but there's nothing wrong with that.