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rrrrr  ·  3749 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: I’m a cop. If you don’t want to get hurt, don’t challenge me.

    Even though it might sound harsh and impolitic, here is the bottom line: if you don’t want to get shot, tased, pepper-sprayed, struck with a baton or thrown to the ground, just do what I tell you. Don’t argue with me, don’t call me names, don’t tell me that I can’t stop you, don’t say I’m a racist pig, don’t threaten that you’ll sue me and take away my badge. Don’t scream at me that you pay my salary, and don’t even think of aggressively walking towards me. Most field stops are complete in minutes. How difficult is it to cooperate for that long?

That's a pretty succinct summary of the problem with US police these days. This attitude is the problem. How far gone do you have to be to say that and not notice what's wrong with it?





b_b  ·  3749 days ago  ·  link  ·  

This has been a known phenomenon for a long time. There's a quote from Homer two and half millenia ago that says something to the effect of, "The sword calls for violence." Paraphrasing, because I can't really remember it, but the attitude displayed in the above quote definitely helps me solidify my belief that beat cops shouldn't have guns.

Edit: "The blade itself insights to deeds of violence." Big ups to CashewGuy for the correction via pm.

ghostoffuffle  ·  3749 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Kind of like your paraphrase better.

crafty  ·  3749 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I don't want to detract from your point, but it should be incites, not insights.

Personally, I'm a supporter of second amendment rights, but I can understand the desire for reasonable limitations on that right because of that very phenomenon. No matter what the policy, everyone's end goal should be a more peaceful society. Criminalizing, banning or otherwise outlawing all weapons isn't the best solution, in my opinion, but neither is advocating for the promulgation and dissemination of weapons among the public, including the police. Murder is a terrible crime and advocating that people use lethal force to protect themselves from any perceived threat of harm is one very small step away from advocating murder itself.

b_b  ·  3749 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Ha! Brain fart. Thanks. I'm not gonna edit, so there's documented evidence of what an idiot I can be at times.

crafty  ·  3749 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No problem, I was quite confused at first by the wording, so I figured I would point it out. Everyone makes mistakes, and I would hardly call a minor homonym mix-up as evidence of idiocy!

Edit: Should be homophone... haha

_refugee_  ·  3749 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Can I just ask, how does one "aggressively walk towards someone"? Is it a certain swagger?

Or is it all in a fucking cop's perception?

JakobVirgil  ·  3749 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The penalty for scaring a cop is death.

Statistically driving a cab is more dangerous

Than being a police officer.

humanodon  ·  3749 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Yes to both. Don't forget that a whole lot of things are communicated through body language. If I walk toward someone very quickly, with my shoulders squared and chest out and a big ol' scowl on my face, most people would not think that I'm going to ask them if they've allowed Jesus into their life.

Cops are trained to perceive threats and so they probably tend to see more threats than people who are not trained to respond to dangerous situations. Attribution is a huge cause of conflict and EVERYONE does it ALL THE TIME. But, we can train ourselves to respond in different ways.

user-inactivated  ·  3749 days ago  ·  link  ·  

If you're walking really fast directly towards someone with a scowl on your face, I would call that aggressively walking towards someone.

GodOfAtheism  ·  3748 days ago  ·  link  ·  

He's not wrong though. The cop is there to end the problem, whatever that problem is. You don't complain about the cop to the cop, you complain about the cop to the cops boss. To the mayor. To the media. To the Attorney General for your state. To your lawyer if need be. Those are the people who are going to resolve the problem with the cop, whether that problem is a lack of training, discipline, or an excess of job.