- Background: Over 100 people, both civilians and combatants, have been killed in Gaza since the latest wave of violence (Op. Protective Edge). There have also been major protests against the operation in many cities all over the world. We have witnessed similar protests during Israel's last two efforts against Hamas (Op. Cast Lead and Op. Pillar of Defense).
To put things into perspective, in Yemen last week, over 200 were killed[1] . We haven't heard of a single protest. More than 5500 have been killed in iraq this year[2] . We haven't heard of a single protest. How many have been killed in Syria? 170000, mostly civilians?[3]
We haven't even started talking about Afghanistan and Pakistan[4] , where the situation is so bad that these mass killings no longer merit a 2 inch spot on the back of a weekly newspaper. In Islamic countries/govs, more muslims have been killed by muslims DURING THE LAST YEAR ALONE than have been killed by Jews in 150 years (birth of the Zionist movement. I'm on a mobile now at work, will try to provide source hopefully soon).
Clearly the protest map is skewed, which begs my question: Have we come to expect less of Islamic governments and their citizens? Why do we not hold these governments accountable with the same rigor that we do with western countries?
http://www.reddit.com/r/TrueAskReddit/comments/2b7fbz/have_we_journalists_politicians_and_media/
The discussion is about the disproportionate perspective placed on world events. A million people were killed in the Rwandan genocide but we mostly let it slide. Pol Pot killed about 1/4 of the population of Cambodia (3 million). The Janjawid have killed a half million people in and around Sudan; about three people per day die just going about their business mining coal in China (down from 18 a day in 2000). You gotta keep in mind - destabilizing the Middle East has been a pastime of world powers for 200 years. We knocked off Saddam, destabilized the Taliban, propped up the Pakistanis and cemented Israel; add a little Arab Spring and it's gonna get ugly. You also have to remember that most of these regions went from "under the thumb of the Ottoman Empire" to "under the thumb of the colonial powers" to "under the thumb of the US or USSR" to "up for grabs to the most dedicated radical religious factions." But that's not really the issue. Gaza is a disenfranchised protectorate of Israel whose native people are hostile to their encirclement. When I was in high school, one of the local pueblos decided to blockade the freeway. Janet Reno came down and told them that if they didn't cut it out, she'd send in the National Guard with tanks. Problem solved. The equivalent with Gaza is the Pojoque Indians start shelling Tesuque and Santa Fe with mortars and the Air National Guard retaliates with air strikes. Ain't nobody gonna give a shit about Tesuque and Santa Fe - the news is gonna be all about the disenfranchised Pueblo indians getting smeared with white phosphorus. Brown people killing other brown people somewhere Americans can't find on a map? That's just another day in the life.
Enjoyed that extended metaphor. I am well aware that the act of a white person killing a Muslim has a massive, loaded history, and that the act of a Muslim killing another Muslim -- remember how the Abbasid transferred power from the Umayyad -- is par for the course. But that does not make-- --this any less true or make the reaction to Gaza Pt. 16000 any less ridiculous. I dislike that; hence this post.In Islamic countries/govs, more muslims have been killed by muslims DURING THE LAST YEAR ALONE than have been killed by Jews in 150 years
That's just another day in the life.
I am not posting this as a pointed statement vis a vis Gaza; I just think this guy is completely right and deserves to be heard. -- About Gaza: it's beyond fashionable right now among liberals to be anti-Israel, which I think is ironic. I've noted this especially among people my age (early twenties) who don't seem to have any grasp of the history of the conflict. While having an anti-Israel opinion doesn't bother me, having it without thought because you read numbers the liberal media stacks up is destructive. Take this post as a small reminder that all numbers are relative, and that apportioning blame is rarely as clear cut as our American textbooks would have us believe. And remember -- in the 21st century we have an increasing propensity to think about and talk about only what the media wants us to. It's easier and comes more naturally to us. I read something very disturbing on my facebook feed yesterday. An intelligent friend of mine wrote a well-received, persuasive and ultimately asinine critique of Israel's civilian killing. The crux: until they are killed, these human shields are merely humans. Hamas isn't doing the killing; Israel is. That's the sort of thing that it's very easy to find yourself nodding along to -- until you stop, shake yourself and realize that you've politically-correcticized yourself into bizarre irrationality by relieving Hamas of its blame in choosing to use civilians as deterrents. And even that is an oversimplification, because many of the civilians who have been killed in Shejaiya are innocent, and were not being used as shields (at least overtly). In a situation where there are no right answers, think twice before you draw conclusions and blame groups of people.
I think (unsurprisingly) it's easier to consume an opinion or narrative that comes preformed. We live in an incredibly complex world, connected and empowered (in certain ways), particularly compared with generations past. It's hard for me to understand how life was different (and similar) for the average person a century or more ago. I think your point about the media is interesting; while the media seems more ingrained in our daily lives, it has also been "democratized" (I use quotes because I think that's a loaded term to really apply here) in a way, but on the other hand I suspect people have always had a propensity to be affected by social pressure, manipulation, and propaganda. From the evidence of this imbalance in people's response, I've seen people argue that this is an indication of racism against Jews. I'm struck by this grey statement because beyond that point, discussion tends to polarize and disintegrate into two camps. To argue that nobody is racist against Jewish people is blatantly fallacious, but on the other hand to argue that everyone who takes issue with Israel's actions is exhibiting a form of racism against Jews is equally silly. Nevertheless, like Kleinbl00 pointed out, there are many instances of disproportionate attention paid when considering straight-up body counts. In fact, I think it's pretty obvious that our reactions are much more complex than just a function of number of deaths. Which is a bigger tragedy? Twenty-five thousand soldiers dying the in the American Revolution, ten kindergartners shot in a school shooting, or one million people dying per year from Heart Disease? Obviously it's a silly example of extremes, and while I think sometimes our relatively different levels of outrage are the result of internalized rules of morality, in many instances, they are manipulated and influenced by outside forces. Obviously in the age of democracy, politics and foreign policy will be be a hot target for that kind of manipulation. It doesn't help that this issue comes at a crossroads of race, religion and geopolitics making it ripe ground for the kind of racism JTHipster talks about. I think anyone who has read about the Isreal/Gaza conflict on Hubski saw Kleinbl00's post about the history of the conflict, which serves to highlight what a tangled web of cause and effect has been woven there over so many generations. The average person simply doesn't have the time/ability/interest/attention-span (myriad of reasons) to fully educate themselves on the history and underlying issues which makes them even more vulnerable to manipulation by politicians and media. As an observer, it can be difficult to come to terms with conflicts that have no real "right" and "wrong" side. Ultimately I think the best solution is to support actions which advance peace, prosperity, and fundamental human rights; and to seek out the education required to recognize those advancements when you see them.
I think we should expect societies based off of divergent cultural (The Crusades is not an unloaded term) events and mythical traditions to respond differently to the feeding of democracy to their its residents. Accordingly, if this area wasn't a colonial Rubik's cube perhaps its contemporary landscape would be different. Or maybe still this is the results of humans inhabiting an area for tens of thousands of years. Maybe the tribal genocides of African countries and the constant strive in the Middle East are the true visage of post-modernity. Humans have been there the longest ... out of Africa into the Fertile Crescent we went I have been told. Perhaps we have it all turned around. They are not backwards but rather they are on the cutting edge as to what will come to be everywhere.
A fun narrative, but likely inaccurate. The reason the genocides in Africa occurred is the same reason all violent racism starts (regular ass racism starts with income disparity and unfamiliarity, but thinking that a group is inferior is different than wanting to murder them.) It's actually incredibly understandable; it'd have to be, because it can, of course, happen everywhere. You start with a group of people who are having a real shitty time. Usually this means poverty, for whatever reason. Not a lot of work, not a lot of money, people are hungry, there's a problem. Well, the government, entertainers, pundits, revolutionaries, etc. can't actually solve these problems. This is because solving poverty is actually incredibly difficult and can't be done quickly. But, they need to keep their viewers, or their votes, or their lives, and if you can't placate the angry population, you need to at the very least turn the anger away from yourself and towards your enemies. Revolutionaries just need to promise that they'll be better; the anger is already pointed in the right direction. Being able to blame a group of people is incredibly easy, because it simplifies something complex. It makes it understandable, and you can incorporate it in to your mental schema without a whole lot of effort. Are you hungry, are you out of work? Well, it's not you, it's not the economy; the jews stole your jobs. Or black people. Or other white people who aren't your specific type of white person. Or they're just a general blight on the country. Violent racism in America, the one that wasn't just outright slavery, came about not because of rich white southerners but because of poor white farmers. Why? Well, they went from having no competition for work to having almost 30% of the population as competition for work. Plus they had just lost a war, and weren't really getting any benefits from it. And they had lost it hard by the end, when they came so close to winning. All to free people who they hadn't even thought of as humans. The first person who stood up at a public meeting and said "fuck all black people" turned all of those negative emotions in to a very solid, very coherent hatred. Why did violent racism diminish over the course of the 20th century? Well, that's also really simple. After World War 2, we had a lot of money. Money buys food, and it buys things that are fun. It relieves stress, mainly the stress of not having money. We just won the war. Sure the racist attitudes were still there, because they had at that point been ingrained in the culture for so long that they still persist, but it became a time when people would even bother to look at civil rights. It just took a couple of years of pushing. Realistically, if we had been poor as we had been during the Depression when the Civil Rights movement took to the streets, it would've gotten no where. First you eat, then you care about your fellow man. This is true in the middle east. It's actually a really simple formula. The region is by and large very poor. Wealth distribution is bad; oil, after all, only benefits the people rich enough to extract it. It's also war torn, and it's been war torn since the 1900s, well before Israel was even a twinkle in the eye. It went from being the Ottoman Empire, a powerful, if bloated, political and military force that commanded some serious respect for centuries, even when it was technologically behind the rest of Europe. Prestige goes a long way to relieving national stress, after all. Blaming the Jews, blaming the other sects of Islam, it's all a very simple and very old method of getting people to look away from the fact that their wallets are empty. Same with Rwanda. Same with China. The best way to alleviate it? Build up industry, get people jobs. Everything else is a bandage.