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swedishbadgergirl  ·  3811 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: One of the reasons why I migrated

I really hope it doesn't happen, but as I understand it reddit wasn't geared towards discussion in the first place and I think hubski has an advantage with building the t´site for communication from the very beginning.

But yes, we have to work towards keeping the quality high.





xenophon  ·  3811 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Long, long ago, way back in the dark ages, reddit actually was a place where decent conversations occurred. I started going to the site to get "the news behind the news"; it seemed like for every article I read, there was someone on reddit who could offer an expert's analysis and flesh out the truth behind the sensationalism. Insightful posts were upvoted and reddiquette was observed. You still get hints of this in AskScience and TrueReddit (though TrueReddit is also sliding downhill...) but for the most part, reddit's current structure rewards low insight, low quality posts that appeal to the masses.

RES sped up the site's de-evolution to shitposting because with RES, people didn't even need to leave the site to consume their cat gifs and whatnot. The Great Digg Migration also brought in a huge influx of new users who didn't know (and didn't care) about the site's cultural history. Then reddit started getting power users like shittywatercolour derailing the conversation with pictures that were at best mildly interesting and at worst, noise that blocked out actual discussion. Add in some targeted campaigns of disruption from 4chan and SomethingAwful, and reddit transformed from a mostly intelligent forum for news, science and politics to the meme-belching fart of a website it currently is.

Anyway. You'd never know it by its current state, but way back when, reddit was a pretty good forum for discussion. I certainly learned a lot when I first found the site. I think hubski has some structural elements in place that will help stave off the de-evolution to shitposting (for example, no downvotes, the hide/ignore/mute option, hashtags instead of subreddits, and no power mods) but if it can happen to reddit, it can happen to hubski.

swedishbadgergirl  ·  3811 days ago  ·  link  ·  

But didn't reddit start out without a comment section? I might be remembering completely wrong though.

xenophon  ·  3811 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No, I think you're right! I guess I'm just speaking to my experience. I didn't jump on the reddit train until 2008-ish, so I missed out on the first three years.

I'll amend my previous statement to say that while it starting out as a link-swapping site, it pretty quickly evolved to include commentary and discussion. In fact, the comments were what initially drew me to the site. That's why I feel so let down (and slightly bitter) to see what it's become.

Game's back on so that's all for now!

swedishbadgergirl  ·  3810 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I joined reddit in 2012 so I completely missed the glory days, I'm just going of what I heard about the beginning of the site.

xenophon  ·  3810 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It seems like we're both jumping on board hubski at the right time, so onward and upward :)