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comment by Meriadoc
Meriadoc  ·  3860 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Oklahoma Double Execution Goes Horribly Wrong

I always hear these ridiculous claims as to when to support the death penalty. "only if they killed exactly 14 people on Tuesday in front of a Supreme Court Judge and ate a banana from the bottom end and a court scribe was there documenting the whole thing while Errol Morris filmed it all and the president is on the jury and..."

why not just not have the death penalty? It's state-sponsored murder and used purely as a way to get revenge. It breeds the acceptance of revenge, and in heinous crimes, people are always going to want to go for it given the choice, and it's bound to be at some point "well, this is a REALLY bad crime, and there's LOTS of evidence, so let's do it.", and there have been tons of cases where that's thought to have happened and been wrong. And an innocent person died.

On top of that, what does it accomplish? Dzhokhar Tsarnaev will get the death penalty, almost certainly. So now we have a dead terrorist and lots of dead and angry people who feel satisfied that someone else is dead. He also potentially becomes a martyr, there's a chance at another terrorist, and nothing changes.

Meanwhile, in Norway, Anders Breivik sits in prison. He is a man that will most likely never leave prison, however, there is no death penalty. There isn't even a life sentence. There is a maximum number of years that can be given to a person (I believe 17) and then at the end of that term, it is determined if the person has been rehabilitated. If not, they stay in prison until they are. The system is built on rehabilitation, and they have an astoundingly low recidivism rate across the board.

Breivik will probably never be fixed, nor will Tsarnaev, but at the very least, if we had Norway's system, people live, and there's a chance at recovery. There's a chance that a serious criminal can understand and become a productive member of society, and people see that the state actually cares about the well-being of its citizens and its goal is good people, instead of punishment and revenge.