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user-inactivated  ·  3907 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: My Hiatus from Hubski

Is the point of Hubski to make the world a better place, or just each of our personal worlds a better place? And if the latter, and if it's effective at that, doesn't the former follow?

I come here because I have a hard time finding good discussion elsewhere on the net. Don't generally think it's a bad thing to seek out people with like-minded interests and engage them. Isn't that how you build social bonds?

Context is important. Facebook has been in the past not much more than a way to stalk old flames and advertise only the attractive parts of your life. These days, it's increasingly just another avenue for more traditional advertisement, and unimaginative advertisement at that. So going there to ask the Big Questions might backfire- people don't expect it or care for it within that context. The trick is to find the right venue for your message and then utilize it. So what better venue for your interests and preferred format than Hubski?





Kafke  ·  3907 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I come here because I have a hard time finding good discussion elsewhere on the net. Don't generally think it's a bad thing to seek out people with like-minded interests and engage them. Isn't that how you build social bonds?

For me, Hubski is a paradox. I originally came here because it was advertised as a "better reddit". Yet, in terms of what I use(d) reddit for, hubski fails completely. The news here is pretty slow, the comments section is a lot smaller, and there's a smaller amount of content as well as a smaller range of content. Yet, I keep coming here. Mainly because I like the discussion focused center, yet I don't quite relate to anyone here. I don't know if that's just because hubski is the place I'm looking for and I just don't contribute or what.

This place is cool though, which is why I stick around.

user-inactivated  ·  3907 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Seems like the problem is in the advertising. I, too, came here from Reddit, but it doesn't take more than a few minutes to recognize that calling Hubski a "better Reddit" is like calling a motorcycle a "better dog." In short, apples and oranges. Or I don't know, apples and fishsticks. I'm of the opinion that- not to beat a dead horse (too many metaphors/analogies?)- Hubski has more in common with Facebook than it does Reddit. Mainly due to the fact that Hubski bases its interactions just as much on interpersonal development as it does on content-sharing. Reddit, that's a place to post a picture, throw a sloppy jab in the comments section, and then never talk to any of those users ever again. It's a place to waste time.

In regards to the content- speed of filtration, range of issues- ain't nothin' wrong with that. After all, stuff filters down through Reddit so quickly that there's no time to separate the wheat from the chaff. You're as likely to see sensationalist nonsense, or worse, misinformation on the front page as you are to see real breaking news. And there's such a confirmation bias within the community that you'll only see certain issues arise, and only from very particular viewpoints.

Yeah, the range of content here is narrower, but it's also generally deeper. Difference between a wide creek and a deep well. Really though, I am on a role with the metaphors.

If you discard the Reddit comparison, Hubski is very much enjoyable on its own merits. And no need to relate if you don't feel like it. It's enough to just engage.

BLOB_CASTLE  ·  3906 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    The news here is pretty slow, the comments section is a lot smaller, and there's a smaller amount of content as well as a smaller range of content.

When flying, you see squares representing fields. When driving, you see blurs of green and yellow representing corn stalks. It's only when walking that you can appreciate the details of a specific thing or event. Such is the beauty of Hubski.

Kafke  ·  3905 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That's definitely true. There's a lot less, but it's typically a lot higher quality. What I meant by that particular line though, is that Hubski doesn't really match interests. There's a particular crowd here, and topics they aren't interested in will never get active nor posted about.

It's kind of like the intellectual version of crushee. Specific group of people, specific topics, but in what they do they do to the extreme. For Hubski that generally means in depth discussion of whatever topic comes up (seems to mostly be some tech stuff, philosophy, music, and society). For crushee, that means cat gifs :\.

kleinbl00  ·  3906 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hubski is actually very similar to what Reddit was in 2007-2008. It's accurate to say that Hubski reflects what Reddit was intended to be.

BLOB_CASTLE  ·  3906 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Will Hubski become what Reddit is now, in your opinion?

kleinbl00  ·  3906 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No.

BLOB_CASTLE  ·  3906 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You seem so certain of yourself. Why is that?

kleinbl00  ·  3906 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Because I have a keen understanding of my knowledge and its limitations.

You seem to feel I'm not entitled to confidence. Why is that?

BLOB_CASTLE  ·  3906 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No it wasn't a dig at your confidence, it was a sincere question. That sort of thing doesn't get conveyed well in text. How does a keen understanding of your knowledge and its limitations prevent this from being Reddit? What about all of those who say history tends to repeat itself? (Again, sincere question aimed for discussion and understanding)

kleinbl00  ·  3906 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    How does a keen understanding of your knowledge and its limitations prevent this from being Reddit?

It doesn't. Not the question you asked. You asked:

    You seem so certain of yourself. Why is that?

That's not a lack of conveyance, that's you changing the subject. You've done this to me before.

Are you asking for an elaboration on your original question, which was:

    Will Hubski become what Reddit is now, in your opinion?

If so, this is a useful place to start.

BLOB_CASTLE  ·  3906 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Well I apologize for any miscommunication my friend.

lil  ·  3907 days ago  ·  link  ·  
user-inactivated  ·  3907 days ago  ·  link  ·  

No good ones on my phone. Will try to oblige when I get home from work...

thenewgreen  ·  3907 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'll show you mine if you show me yours.

user-inactivated  ·  3907 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Oh my god, you guys make some cute kids. And it's hard to create a cute newborn. Congrats!

cgod  ·  3907 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Haha, they are all cute kids.

I thought my kid was pretty out of control when she was born.

user-inactivated  ·  3907 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Hm, this line of pics is making me suspicious that I just don't make cute newborns. Our older daughter hit one year and she metamorphosed into a gerber-worthy kid. But before that, she was- and this is more by my wife's cold reckoning than mine- pretty busted. She still refuses to put newborn pics up in the house.

I take the blame- my mom said that when I was a baby I looked like "a rat."

thenewgreen  ·  3907 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The irony is that I made fun of the triviality of FB in this thread and here we all are posting photos of our kids... :)

user-inactivated  ·  3907 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Wait until I start mining your comments for clues on what I might successfully sell you. Can you live without the new Kitchenaid stand mixer? Can you really?

thenewgreen  ·  3907 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Tell me more..

cgod  ·  3907 days ago  ·  link  ·  

When I was born the first thing my grandfather said was "what's wrong with him," that's how funny I looked.

thenewgreen  ·  3907 days ago  ·  link  ·  

How alert! What a cute kid.

cgod  ·  3907 days ago  ·  link  ·  

She was a creepily alert baby, almost never lolling her head and staring off into space, always focusing right at something. Now a days she has mastered the art of never paying any attention to me at all and only doing what ever the hell she wants.

thenewgreen  ·  3907 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Thanks pal. My wife's beautiful. -it helps.

BLOB_CASTLE  ·  3907 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I come here because I have a hard time finding good discussion elsewhere on the net. Don't generally think it's a bad thing to seek out people with like-minded interests and engage them. Isn't that how you build social bonds?

I definitely agree that Hubski is a good think. But I don't think it should be an exclusive place for great discussion about important topics.

While I agree with your picture of Facebook, I don't believe it's static. Why not make Facebook a place of discussion? Yes, another forum would probably open for people to talk about trivial things, but it'd change things - shake the status quo if you will. And at least people will see the questions raised and realize there's more beyond the surface.

user-inactivated  ·  3907 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Good on you, man. Far be it from me to dissuade you from attempting to engage people in all settings- it's always worth something.

My point was less that it's not worth trying, per se, and more that people are primed in certain settings to accept some interactions and reject others. And the more they follow the rule-sets of those environments, the more strongly those rules are enforced. I worry that Facebook has too established a social infrastructure at this point to really shift the parameters that dramatically.

That said, again- just because something seems improbable doesn't mean you ought not try.

BLOB_CASTLE  ·  3906 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Everything is possible and impermanent.