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cW  ·  3918 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Why Heideggerian AI Failed and how Fixing it would Require making it more Heideggerian

Well alpha0, it's been the better part of two years I've been planning to read, and then attempting to read, this article, and I have to say, now that I've finished it, thank you for the single most valuable link that hubski has brought me to date. (I'm assuming you were the original poster).

I've been intending to dip into Heidegger for quite some time, sensing that his work is deeply important to my own project, but that is one of those subjects of study which one must discover the ideal in-road to, rather than just leaping willy-nilly into whatever primary reading material might be available. Imagine my delight then, to discover the subject taken up (if obliquely) by the very same heroic lecturer who once cracked open Soren Kierkegaard for me! It's taken me ages, but I've received much of value by reading this article -- not just a fine introduction to Ol' Martin, but also a nice sorting out of various problems which have been nagging at me about the feasibility of this whole mechanistic singularity business, Kurt Weil and downloadable selves, etc. So once again, thanks much for sharing.

(This isn't the exact lecture, but it's a good example of Dreyfus's style)





alpha0  ·  3918 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You are welcome.

Thank you for the link. I'm listening to it now.

As to the content of Dr. Dreyfus' lecture and the 'contrary' distinctions he draws between Greeks and "Judeo-Christians":

I recently read somewhere that the ancient Iranians held that Water and Fire must be United and at the same time did not consider these two 'meta-physical elements' to be 'antagonistic'. They believe that (and I paraphrase) 'It is entirely due to the destructive degeneration of Ahriman ("devil") that Fire and Water are mutually destructive to one another in this plane'.

In other words,

O Bhagavat! We now wish to give an illustration to clarify what we mean: Suppose there were a man who, when he was still a child, left his father and ran away. Living in another region for a long time he passed the age of ten, twenty, even fifty years. The older he got the more impoverished he became.