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veen  ·  3937 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Hubski Book Club: Watchmen Discussion Part 1 [final discussion March 1st]

I've read it two weeks ago in one relentless reading rush. Intrigued, hooked, whatever you want to call it. I thought issue 4 did a tremendous job of showing the way Jon perceives time and space at the same time, followed by the amazing mirrored Issue 5. Only downside I have with the series is that I found the Pirate series a bit too verbose to properly follow and understand, but that might just be me.





kleinbl00  ·  3937 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The Black Freighter is an allegory that serves the dual purpose of putting you in a distracted state while the authors perform some sleight of hand while also parodying the verbose fashion in which epic tales boil down to "it was all a stupid mistake."

You don't need to follow the Black Freighter. It's supposed to be over the top, empty, overly gory and vulgar and ultimately futile.

veen  ·  3937 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    You don't need to follow the Black Freighter.

Phew. I quite liked it as a narrative device, both in creating a frame story that makes the main story seem more realistic and in its narrative parallels with the main arc. But they were always the parts I needed to read twice to understand what was actually happening. I wasn't sure if that was because it surpassed my English abilities or because it was meant to be that way.

briandmyers  ·  3937 days ago  ·  link  ·  

KB is right, you don't need to follow the Black Freighter - but I'll admit, it was only on this re-reading that I realised whose story the Black Freighter is meant to parallel (at least, I think I know). But further discussion of that realisation will have to wait for the full discussion. Or I could add a spoiler, to block it for those who haven't finished it yet.

I think the Black Freighter parallels Adrian's story, especially the justifications of his monstrous actions; and the final futility in BF is much more obvious than in the primary narrative. Adrian only realises he is damned when Jon says "nothing ever ends".

insomniasexx  ·  3937 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I found that I wanted to read the black freighter separately. Like I wanted to close Watchmen and just read the morbid tales of pirates, especially after readig the fake description at the end of the issue.

veen  ·  3937 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Maybe for the amazing and gruesome graphics, but I wouldn't buy it if I saw it in a comic store because of that writing.

kleinbl00  ·  3936 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I totally remember comics like that, though. They kinda died off in the '70s but damn, they were something.

insomniasexx  ·  3937 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I mainly just wanted to focus on that and read it and figure out what it was going/ trying to say.