hubski definitely fails to address this problem. hubski's follow mechanic is a serviceable replacement for points (2) and (3) of jawns' HN comment, but as it's one of the main ranking metrics, this just means our situation is rotated slightly. hubski doesn't show you links outside of your followed group (by design), and new links from people you've followed have a good chance of being missed. i like solution (1) in which "prime real estate" is dedicated to new/obscure links you wouldn't otherwise see, and i think hubski could use it. i think there's an opportunity here to pop the filter bubble, just a little bit.
How so? Do you recall when we used to allow for a number of 'global posts' to filter into your feed? I think you could set it to none, few, or many. Is something along these lines what you are thinking of? I actually kind of miss it. Also, how is our approach significantly different from Reddit's? On Reddit, you can click 'rising' whereas here, each of the global feeds with multiple shares is sorted in a similar way. I'm not saying our approach is adequate. I'd love to improve it if we can.i like the "prime real estate" solution (1), and think hubski could use it.
sorry, i have a bad habit of heavily editing comments in the few minutes after i submit them. the comment you're replying to is probably significantly different from the one that existed when you read it, though the general sentiment is the same.
I have that same habit. I think that I wait to edit it after it is submitted because only then is it real and the pressure on to make it read well.
one smaller complaint: i feel like with nine different global feeds, the content in the middle feeds is often overlooked. nine is too many feeds to comfortably consume all of them, and there is no real reason to have such granularity. maybe condense it down to three: new, middle, and high.
mk thenewgreen I kind of like this idea. We could look into this and have new / middle / high as the icons (they might fit nicer in the global/chatter dropdown we talked about a long time ago) and keep the ?global?id=[number] for filtering to specific levels. Can we talk about this next monday?
I just had a look at the average "age" of posts on my feed, it was 7.05 hours for the first 17 posts. That sounds about right generally. Is that too high? It was skewed some -- six of those 17 posts were an hour or so old, while a couple were over 20 hours. Seems to me what you are discussing is how low/high the number 7.05 should be. Does the hubski share system clog feeds? (And do the global buttons at the top make it not matter? - probably for now.)
i'm fine with filtering out highly-ranked global content. this was my main problem with reddit: it was difficult to filter out highly-ranked content that i didn't want to see. hubski has solved this, but still makes it easily available on the global pages (equivalent to the difference between reddit's frontpage of your subscriptions and /r/all). highly-ranked content that is outside my filter bubble of followed users is okay to keep off the front page. but i want to see content from people i've followed that hasn't been voted on very much. afiact you only provide feeds for "hot" content from people i've followed, no feeds for obscure content. i also want to see globally obscure content promotion on the main page. i am fine with seeing new content outside my filter bubble, and it's available on the low-ranked global pages, but users have to actually think about it and then go there. most users are consumption-oriented, and will look at the front page briefly, upvote things that are already highly-ranked, and then be done. if you can divert attention from the main page to new content, you will improve the ability of new content to get off the ground. i don't remember the "global post" mixing feature. did it show new global posts, or highly ranked global posts?
I think it was a mixture of both. It basically spliced your front page with a global front page. I have been thinking on this, and I am considering removing the 9 divisions of the global feed, and just having one global feed. Then your feed and the global feed can both be sorted by activity (the current ranking algo) and time. Thus, there would be two feeds, each which could be sorted by two ways. I think the global feed may exclude anything in your feed. But I am not sure about that. If this didn't prove sufficient, we could always add a new sort, something like 'rising'.i don't remember the "global post" mixing feature. did it show new global posts, or highly ranked global posts?