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comment by thenewgreen

    I can't see how you can dismiss gay marriage when you see actual couples, actually together for over 30 years.

It's a fools errand to look for logic behind why people dismiss the right for two consenting adults to love one another openly.

I firmly believe that when my children are older they will look at those that oppose equality for lgbt people as the bigots and hate monger's that they are.

The history books will treat them as we treat the champions of slavery and racism. I'm glad Hawaii was able to pass this, I wish my state of North Carolina would follow suit. -I'm not holding my breath but I'm still hopeful.





Meriadoc  ·  4009 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I could see North Carolina pulling it off. The cities have enough sway to make it possible; that is if it will can be brought to the State floor in the first place. The other Carolina, however...

AdSeriatim  ·  4008 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Simply grant the religious people God's existence and the logic kinda makes sense. I understood it as something like this: Eternal suffering is the greatest suffering someone can endure. Since this suffering is so great, you owe a duty to everyone to save them from this suffering. When you sin you are more likely (/will depending on who you talk to) to suffer for eternity. You thus owe a duty to someone to keep them from sinning. Sex with someone of the same gender is a sin. Thus, you owe a duty to everyone to keep them from having sex with someone of the same gender.

Not that I agree with all that, but it makes sense why believers of this are so resistant to the idea of same sex marriage. And other then that I agree, I dont get how this one sin is made out to be the sin that will ruin one's chance of getting into Heaven. Hopefully I'm right, because when I discussed this with my extremely christian friend, he told me I was going to hell. Thanks, friend haha. But I agree with you, shit doesnt make sense to me since

thenewgreen  ·  4006 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Simply grant the religious people God's existence and the logic kinda makes sense
-Nope, nothing simple about that.

The existence of God does not equate to homosexuality being a sin or even that "sin" exists. There is a HUGE leap from there being a creator to there being a creator that has set up arbitrary rules that it cares deeply about. "Don't eat pork, no tattoos, don't round the corners of your hair or beard, etc." -Ridiculous stuff and all of these things are more clearly forbade than homosexuality in the bible. It's not worth taking these people seriously, I'll not do it anymore or ever again. I'm sick of pretending that the people that ascribe to this stuff aren't delusional.