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user-inactivated  ·  4043 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Should spying on allied heads of state be impeachable?

Okay. Yeah. Why is this like, a minor media story? This is way, way, way bigger than the NSA spying on Americans. We've known about that for a long time and it's practically the NSA's job anyway. Spying on allied foreign ministers and officials is not anyone's job; that's why they're called allies (although it's comforting to know that presumably we can hear all of Putin's phone calls too).

But, no, I don't think it can be an impeachable offense. For one thing, you'd have to prove that Obama actually had a direct hand in it (and if he didn't, it was almost certainly to protect him from potential calls for impeachment). Sometimes the President isn't told things for the sake of plausible deniability; maybe that happened here. For another, as mk points out, there's nothing in the Constitution about this really. Outdated document. For a third, if Obama is throwing the NSA under the bus, I can't blame him. The public hates it anyway, and the stuff about using resources to spy on personal acquaintances pretty much opened it up to taking all the heat here in my opinion.

I'll leave you with this quote from a former French foreign minister:

    The magnitude of the eavesdropping is what shocked us. Let's be honest, we eavesdrop too. Everyone is listening to everyone else. But we don't have the same means as the United States, which makes us jealous.