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NewVegasGod  ·  4070 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Who else here smokes a pipe?

I really had no idea there was a noticeable difference between the 3 mediums. That definitely was an interesting read. I don't have much else to contribute because my knowledge of this sort of thing is pretty much limited to everything you just told me.

On a side note, how bullshit are e-cigs? I was skeptical as soon as I saw the commercials hit TV.





humanodon  ·  4070 days ago  ·  link  ·  

That's a good question. It's a question that politicians are running with and trying to pass legislation on.

Basically, cigarettes are a nicotine delivery system. Nicotine in large quantities is lethal, no bones about it. However, large quantities for nicotine is minute compared to other stuff. Anyway, most of the carcinogens in cigarettes are formed during the burning process, and there are a shitload of carcinogens in cigarette smoke.

More testing needs to be done on e-cigarettes to determine their potential danger, as they are relatively new. But, one obvious advantage is that there is no burning plant matter from which carcinogens can form. Additionally, the ingredients that make up e-liquid (the stuff that vaporizes) is relatively well understood. Yes, the nicotine can cause cancer, as can one of the common sweeteners for e-liquid. In general, it is thought that e-cigs are a vast improvement over traditional or "analog" cigarettes. Also, the vapor dissipates much more readily into air, because there is less stuff that comprises it.

So, in short: e-cigs are less bullshit than people assume. There are people who think that they are completely safe, but the fact is that consuming nicotine is not completely safe. However, there have been studies done that equate the risk of nicotine from e-cigs to the risk of consuming caffeine from coffee, something which few people consider to be a danger even though it's relatively easy to overdose on caffeine.

The ones you see on TV, I imagine are what the vaping community terms, "cigalikes" or, vaporizers that look like cigarettes. I don't know much about those. Actually, I got on e-cigs because of a post I made on hubski a while back. AlderaanDuran and insomniasexx seem to know more about (or at least have more experience than I do) with e-cigs. Maybe they can chime in to more fully answer your question.

NewVegasGod  ·  4070 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Sounds like it does cut down on a lot of health risks, even just from the fact that there isn't too many ingredients in them. One thing I've always hated about cigarettes is that I have no clue what's in them. I know that there's some pretty harmful things, but I could only tell you a few of them.

humanodon  ·  4070 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Thousands of harmful compounds are formed by burning cigarette tobacco. E-cigs are definitely a huge reduction in risk.

AlderaanDuran  ·  4070 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    how bullshit are e-cigs? I was skeptical as soon as I saw the commercials hit TV.

They are not bullshit at all. I use one, but not the ones on TV or at the gas station. I have an Ego battery and use MT3S for the "clearomizer" (the atomizer and tank), and vape a juice that's made right here in my hometown. It looks something similar to this, but this is just a pic I nabbed of the ecig subreddit, and my clearomizer (the part on top that burns and holds the jucie) is a little different. It's about the size of a cigar.

http://imgur.com/8o5zkPu

Humanodon pretty much said it all, and I agree with everything he said. I'd say they are definitely safer than cigarettes just based on the hundreds of fewer chemicals (most ecig juices only have like 3-5), but yeah inhaling anything can't be that great for you. Consider it harm reduction, yet you still get that similar feeling of smoking and you still get nicotine. Plus it tastes better, doesn't stink, you don't have a butt to throw away, doesn't cost as much, and you can do it in the bathroom stall at work while playing cell phone games.