Dude. What the fuck? You, some of the local intellectual elite (and this is a pretty intellectual forum), are going to fight over politics? Are you crazy? I get it. Life might start to suck for you like I could never imagine. I don't know the whole situation, but from what I've skimmed over at kleinbl00's Hulk-level-angry comments, the country isn't falling apart and your lifes aren't in danger. So what the fuck are you involving yourself at? Why are you fighting over political differences in a place that's all about learning and treating each other with respect and dignity? Sure. It sucks. It's fucking terrible, the way things are going to happen out there. I hope I don't come off as condescending (there must be a better word for what I'm trying to say) just because I'm on the other side of the planet. I feel you. But. Why are you playing "us vs. them" when working together is the thing you need the most? Notice the extensive formatting? Remember how I barely ever use it? > You guys got what you wanted. > Some of us are seeing our tax dollars flow into your redneck states. For fuck's sake. Shitty hand's been dealt, and trust me - I've felt it all the way down here. Work with it. Work around it. And it's not like you've lost whatever skills and capabilities you've had before the wig hit the fan. So what the hell is stopping you from having a discussion NOW?