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Thank you for the saying so matjam, I think that "aha" moment that you describe is sadly, something that not everyone has the patience to get to. This has actually served us well in the past as those without the resolve to "figure it out" end up leaving. We had a number of circle jerkers come by a few years ago and they quickly got bored and left. The good people stick around, which is awesome. time to attract the best from reddit
Please feel free to invite the best over. Leave the chaff.