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bioemerl  ·  3696 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Hey, let's have a discussion about eating meat

There aren't many ad hominem attacks here. There are a few, but the lion's share of comments do not mention you at all, if not very little.

    If you don't feel empathy towards any of them, then ask yourself why and then try for a moment to put yourself in the skin of the animal you eat.

If you do, you are wrong, if you don't, you are wrong also.

I think you understand this, but people make the claim plants feel pain for the reason above. It's not that we value plants, it's that we see animals the same way you would see plants.

I may as well ask you to put yourself in the shoes of a personified piece of celery.

    I'm asking very simple questions. Do we need to eat meat? If so why? Is there any scientific reason to eat meat or are the reasons purely based on tradition, what our parents fed us because their parents fed them because of their parents fed them and so on. Is it perhaps due to self-indulgence?

Why is easy to answer. We, humans, learned to hunt and eat meat ages ago, and have greatly benefited from it in terms of how much we could gather and keep. We probably started scavenging meat from dead bodies, and then learned to hunt, developing our deadly trait of jogging things to death, making a requirement to work in groups, making a requirement for socialization, and so the story goes.

We eat meat because that's what humans have always done, and probably will always do. Not so much due to culture, but due to our nature of being scavengers/hunters/omnivores.

"feral" humans tend to be not so nice. I imagine they wouldn't have an issue with eating meat.

    Let's take a moment of reflection, to put ourselves on the hooves of those we have chosen to prey upon.

Why does it matter?

Empathy is an emotion. Let it control you and it is no better than anger or hate or pride.

It's an emotion "made" to let humans get together and work as a society, not one designed to hold us back and stop us from eating animals.

(technically it's just evolution, a random trait not meant to do anything that turned out to have a positive benefit, I'm looking at this from a post-benefit view)

    Why do we treat certain animals with love and affection while it's accepted that others exist for exploitation?

If you want to discuss the logic and ideals behind the seemingly twisted and corrupt morals of humanity, you are going to have to ask me. It deserves it's own specified rant.

And speak for yourself, I have no time for videos.