Funded by Bannon? I read the linked drivel, never saw that. Where do I get my info? Straight from the source. I do this with all of the front runners. I watch town halls, interviews, listen to podcasts. Instead of getting info from partisan sources, I make my own determinations. I’ve watched interviews and listened to podcasts with Vivek, Desantis, Kennedy, Williamson etc. The only candidate I haven’t heard from is Biden. He no longer gives long form interviews or town halls or even press conferences. Hopefully that will change. My kids asked someone who RFK Jr. Was because I have a water bottle with his name in it. They told my kids that he was a racist. That their father supported a racist. Why? Because at a dinner he referenced a peer reviewed paper that showed certain ethnicities had more resistance to Covid-19, including Ashkenazi Jews. The porpoganda machine went to work, saying he was racist against Jews. Instead of blindly believing that, I watched the video. It wasn’t even near racism. But through the media it filtered its way down to my kids. Pawns. I refuse to be one. Media is all agenda. It’s a tool (one I’ve used) that elites use to push agendas. There is no investigative journalism left out there (very little) Certainly not at TNR.
and that reference was "At a dinner event in July 2023, Kennedy said "there is an argument that (COVID-19) is ethnically targeted", adding "COVID-19 is targeted to attack Caucasians and Black people. The people who are most immune are Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese ... we don't know whether it’s deliberately targeted or not."" he said that it could be deliberately targeted to avoid jews and chinese. are you serious? you're so committed to being openminded that your brain is gonna fall out. be less concerned with somebody telling your kids you're racist and more concerned with not blindly supporting jackasses because they confirm your priors
The actual video is less than 2 minutes long. No need to quote grab. Watch in context. He pretty clearly says that he doesn’t know if it’s deliberate. I’d be shocked if nation states weren't developing targeted bioweapons. His reply and the paper he is referencing here: https://x.com/robertkennedyjr/status/1680227322509635595?s=46&t=p-FnYgUURab8KYpGK5vsZA
if it was deliberate, did the jews make it or the chinese? in your opinion. and how did the sino-hebraic alliance begin?
srsly - the context is incredibly obvious to everyone. You don't bring up that in theory a disease could be made that did that, without implying that Covid-19 was. It would be entirely irrelevant to mention otherwise. And ofc it's the Jews again. Can some other ethnicity be the target of whackjob conspiracy theories. The Dutch have had it too good too long
My gut reaction is to say "with Eva Saxl" not because I think this line of questioning should be humored, but because Eva Saxl is the best example of sino-hebraic badassery I can think of.
"The Chinese are spending hundreds of millions of dollars developing ethnic bioweapons and WE are developing ethnic bioweapons that's what all those labs in Ukraine are about, they're collecting Russian DNA, they're collecting Chinese DNA so that we can target whole people by race." Dude. "there is an argument that COVID-19 is ethnically targeted" is bad enough what he's got there is full-blown precious bodily fluids nonsense. See here's the thing. You're surrounded by smart people. You're an officer at a biomedical startup FFS. You're married to a doctor. You have, at arm's reach, a gobsmacking amount of medical expertise. Instead you are championing a guy parroting Putin's talking points. No he pretty clearly exaggerates a bunch of nonsense that not even RT was willing to fully commit to. 'k dude you know what a "targeted" disease is? SIckle-cell anemia. 93% of patients who suffer from sickle-cell disease are African American. Why? Sickle-cell trait is prophylactic against malaria. And yet. 7 percent of patients with sickle-cell disease are not African-American. bioweapons are tactically (and, frankly, strategically) useless to begin with; an "ethnic bioweapon" that affects 7% of people who aren't your targeted ethnicity is Hugo Drax nonsense. Know who COVID targets? Poor people. And not very accurately, I might add. First hiccup in my life from COVID (other than catching it) was a movie I was doing post on got pushed because one of the millionaire producers up and died within 3 days of symptoms. You're smarter than this.He pretty clearly says that he doesn’t know if it’s deliberate.
I’d be shocked if nation states weren't developing targeted bioweapons.
It’s odd to me that suggesting nations are creating bio-weapons is controversial. Not exactly new terrain This entire thread started with me wishing we had debates on the dem side. Reasonable desire. I’d love to see RFK Jr, Newsom and others debate Biden. If he’s not up to the task, we as a nation should be made aware. I know the canned reply is that no sitting President gets primaried. I don’t think I’d feel this need if we had a President that was ever in front of the press. I am not a democrat, never have been even though it’s the only party I’ve ever voted for. I feel no affiliation or loyalty to the DNC. I do feel loyalty to ideals. Ideals that have been championed by the left for decades: Freedom of speech, right to privacy, that we need to be good stewards of our planet, I believe in strong and independent media, I believe money should be kept out of politics. I believe the revolving door between policy makers and corporate lobbyists needs to close. No one candidate embodies all of these things. I’ve donated money to several politicians and even Andrew Yangs forward party and I’ve done so based on their policy stances not on the party they belong to. I think there’s a lot of, “we have to support Biden cause if not, then trump. Fuck that. I’m tired of the DNC not listening to or trusting the electorate. Any former Bernie supporters will know what I mean. A large part of my donating to Kennedy is to try and force the hand of the dnc to allow debates. I know the canned response is, “that’s exactly what the right wants.” Well, then I’m in alignment. I truly believe that if trump is the candidate he will win against Biden but would lose handedly against almost any other candidate. I’m tired. I don’t much enjoy Hubski these days. Really miss the old days. It’s a bummer. I wish you and the family well. Gonna peace out for a while. Onward!
Let's take a step back: The only criticism I leveled above is the notion that RFK's statements, in that clip you linked, are anything other than pseudoscientific dezinformatsiya straight from the Kremlin. I leveled this criticism on the idea that ethnically-targeted bio-weapons are nonsense. And I say this personally knowing people whose entire job it was to evaluate hostile foreign bio-weapons for USAMRIID. All the rest of your tag cloud here is about other stuff. It is answers to questions I didn't raise. it is attitudes about subjects I haven't brought up. I will say this: it is my measured and informed opinion that RFK Jr is the very definition of a useful idiot.. And I will say this: RFK Jr. does not share your ideals. The Kennedys are a transactional family, none more transactional than RFK Jr. He spent what, 15 years as in environmental law? Why isn't he running on the environment? Think about it for a minute. How hard would GenZ lean into a candidate who said "I am a single-issue candidate and my issue is climate change"? But that's not where he's getting his attention from. Because it's not the attention he wants. Biden will absolutely debate. He will debate any opponents, Republican or otherwise, under the terms of debate agreed upon by the opposing parties. You know that, I don't need to remind you. It's 2023, man. We're a long, long road from there. And you're giving to RFK Jr. to, I dunno, somehow alter history? Show me the debates here. Biden has not done a lot of press conferences. He's also been dealing with States of the Union where this is the standard level of decorum: All that to say, "I don't like biden because he doesn't do a lot of press conferences" is telegraphing pretty loud that you don't like Biden for _________________________ (whatever reason is convenient in the moment). I'm not going to tell you to like Biden. But I am going to tell you that you're too clever to take on RFK Jr's baggage just because you think Biden is old.
And what if? the wildfires were caused by Jewish Space Lasers
You've got a water bottle with a man's name on it who told Joe Rogan, "straight from the source", that WiFi can open the blood-brain barrier and cause cancer. I mean do I really feel like I need to spend more time talking to you? Nope.
I have no love lost for Kennedy, but he's funded by Bannon in the same way all those MAGA idiots were funded by the DNC in the last election. It's pretty common practice these days for both parties to run interference in the primary cycle to try to get the worst candidate on the ballot or at least cause some chaos and wasted funds.
That's semi-fair, the key differences being: 1) Kennedy's positions aren't remotely aligned with the democratic party vs. the ultra MAGA chuds being GOP-aligned candidates, just extreme versions, and 2) The 3rd party presidential candidates draw more democratic votes than those from the GOP. Here, I'm just (very over agressively) calling someone out for falling for it. I'm sorry, this is like, super obvious to me what's going on. RFK Jr. is a spoiler candidate promoted by fascists. Is Biden a gifted orator? At this stage of his life, nah. And his policies draw mixed reviews from me. But not being able to see through RFK is fucking weird, I'm sorry. Techbro shit. edit: many of Kennedy's stated policies are relatively democratic, but I had no idea, since he never talks about them
You never answered my question Re his policies that don’t align with the Democratic Party. He’s pro vaccine safety. Re the blood brain barrier, perhaps it’s not that crazy. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19345073/
he thinks that vaccines cause autism, brother! pro vaccine safety is a clear dogwhistle. you don't need to be pro safety on something that is near-universally safe. if you describe yourself as "pro armchair safety", that means that somebody's putting spikes on the chairs. the tactic of hiding behind "I'm just asking questions, further research is needed into the issue" is cowardly and is made without evidence on the actual position being taken. there is no evidence that vaccines cause or are linked to autism, but RFK JR has been saying it for decades. now he's repeating the canard that endocrine disruptors in the water are causing feminization and transgender-ization. there's no evidence that this is the case. why is he suggesting that "research should be done?" to seed the ground for calling transness artificial, man-made, and a medical illness. if i come out on stage and suggest that being molested as a child actually has hidden health benefits and that further research should be done, i don't get to say that I'm just asking questions. it would be obvious that i am a pedophile trying to drum up support. but it's easy to see that pedophilia is wrong, and apparently much harder to see that when it's about autists and trannies
This conversation started with someone asking why I thought Kennedy is a dem. I see no reason to think he isn’t based on his policy proposals. Anti war, anti surveillance state, pro free speach etc. Re vaccination, he’s admitted to being fully vaccinated and having vaccinated his children. From one of his town halls: He’s not wrong Re the FDA/Pharma revolving door.I’ve never been anti-vaccine, and I’ve said that hundreds and hundreds of times but it doesn’t matter,” Kennedy told NewsNation host Elizabeth Vargas in a town hall Wednesday. “Because that is a way of silencing me. Using a pejorative to describe me is a way of silencing me or marginalizing me.”
He continued: “We have a corrupt federal agency. It’s lying to the AMA, to you, to all of those agencies and all of the doctors. They believe them. Those agencies are controlled by pharma. That is the problem and that’s what I’m trying to end as president.”
if he's fully vaccinated and so are his kids, and he also believes vaccines are unsafe and cause autism, etc, doesn't that make him both a hypocrite and an idiot? using a pejorative to describe somebody? it's just what he continually and publically espouses. it's not a pejorative, it's a descriptor. if you think it makes you marginalized to have what you say be described, then that should tell you something about what you're saying
Because every other Democrat thinks that parroting insane conspiracy theories is disqualifying. And asking honestly, even if Kennedy's other policies were standard Democrat fare, what about him is better than Biden ?? How is this less baggage ??
A great example of conspiracy theories being disqualifying for dems is how nobody took Marianne Williamson seriously once all the "healing crystals" stuff hit the fan. And afaik, that was the only conspiracy-adjacent thing she espoused. For the republican party, believing in conspiracy is a requirement. The crazier, the better. I had to look up RFK's policies, because he never talks about them. They're relatively democrat-centrist, from what I can find. Some even sound progressive. But all he talks about are conspiracies. THAT is republican. And so is being "anti-war" while also advocating to bomb and/or invade Mexico. I'd love to hear RFK Jr. be asked that question. I can add legit source links to this thread all day. We can't just watch the candidates lie to us in debates or interviews and trust everyone on the basis of how charismatic they are.
I interviewed Henry Lai for an hour once. I needed information for a screenplay on how, exactly, one would communicate with the brain via non-invasive methods. He was, at the time, the guy to talk to about cell phone radiation. Might still be, I dunno; it was 20-odd years ago. And 20-odd years ago, it was an uncontested fact that radiation had an impact on the brain. What kind of impact? Inconclusive. Dude brought up a dozen studies for me, some saying it made you stupider, some saying it made you smarter. Some saying it caused headaches, some saying it cured them. Lai's spitball take was that heating up a muscle increases blood flow, heating up the brain increases blood flow, increased blood flow is a catalyst, not a reactant. Here's some science. Cell phone radiation is advertised as SAR - Specific Absorption Rate. That's a "how bright is your lightbulb" measurement; the amount of light/heat that falls on your body is a function of how far away you are. In the US, a cell phone must put out no more power than 1.6W/kg - as in, holding the phone up to your head, the whole of your brain, all 1300g of it, can absorb no more than 2W. On the other hand, your wifi router puts out about 100mW. It, of course, is subject to spherical decay and the inverse square law. Most emission is given in terms of 1w/1m and then given in dB; any given conventional loudspeaker will lose 6dB per doubling of distance. So a 120dB Marshall stack from 3 feet away? is 114dB at 6 feet, 108dB at 12 feet, etc. 3dB is a doubling of power; a 6dB loss reflects a power level 25% as strong. Of your 500W Marshall stack, 125W is there at 6 feet, 31W is there at 12 feet, 8W is there at 24 feet, etc. I am currently six feet from a Unifi hot-spot. It's prosumer/B2B shit; it puts out 200mW. Sitting here typing I am receiving 0.05 watts off it. Should my phone ring? And I hold it up to my head? I will be receiving about 1.5W. This is just algebra. It doesn't require much in the way of specialist knowledge; a little googling goes a long way. Now, you tell me - does RFK have a cell phone?