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rezzeJ  ·  3080 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Anger over 'Bregret' as Leave voters say they thought UK would stay in EU

I don't think you need to worry about any scorn from this community in response to these sentiments. Your exasperation reflects the way a lot of us in Britain feel towards those that fuelled the leave campaign with fear-mongering and bigotry.

And, forgetting even the actual ramification of this vote, this is one of the reasons I think that the whole thing is so worrying. It used to be the case that you look at votes for such things and think: "it's scary that many people think like that, but they're in a minority." However, now a campaign full of lies and hate has actually claimed a majority.





Devac  ·  3080 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Thanks. That judgement upon community was presumptuous on my part, sorry. I'm thinking a bit clearer now.

However, part of me can't believe in this. I'm doing my best to keep away from bias, do my own research and achieve conclusions most of the time. My views are hardly radical in any direction, maybe aside of providing better funding to scientific and medical research, but that's my own recognized bias. I don't feel (at least lasting) hate toward anything or anyone, try to really apply "let's be excellent to each other" phrase in my life and be as reasonable as my own emotions and passion allow me.

But then I seeā€¦ this. Hate, preconceptions, manipulation of data and generally proclaiming isolationism and borderline patriotism (I think you know what word I almost used here) as good values. That breaks my heart on a level so fundamental that I have trouble finding words to describe it. I was wholeheartedly convinced that majority of people moved past it. That we, as a species, go toward progress and make steps toward understanding and unity. My limited knowledge of modern history shows slow but steady forward steps in that direction and it gives me hope. That we are becoming aware of our wilder or animalistic motives and natures and use it to find a way to work past it. Even when facing tragedies, both recent and ones that I read about in archives, I remind myself that we go forward.

But right now, at this very moment, I feel like someone from Star Trek universe plunged into Crusade era.

I'm past anger at this point. I want to break and cry and the only thing that stops me is the fact that it will not solve anything. But I can't even see anything that could be of any furthering use, even though I am perfectly aware that I am exaggerating my own view due to non-rational reasons.

EDIT: Of course, to make it clear, oftentimes I can make a fairly benign comment and yet a lot of people on Hubski will start at best being derisive dicks toward me and my opinions. Either publicly or via PM or taking it out to the IRC. So, let's consider my judgement as not presumptuous but in this case I was aligned with hive-mind enough to get some level of understanding. So don't think that I don't find myself treated with a vastly different standard than a lot of the 'old guard' here. Which is, admit it, rather shitty of people.