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JackTheBandit  ·  3666 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Understanding The New Black Panther Party

    I don't give two fucks if you feel hatred or not. The point is not to protect feelings, it's to create and establish a working and functional society. A society where one group despises and attacks another for ANY reason, is not a functional one. It has nothing to do with power.

By this definition, a significant portion of humanity is incapable of living in a functioning society based on what we currently know. I'm wondering if you acknowledge this (because I do) and your thoughts on its implications.





bioemerl  ·  3666 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Functional is a scale, not a binary.

You could well say that Nazi society was really functional and went amazingly. However, it was not-in-small part to their actions that their society was defeated.

Afterwards, it was reformed in a way that has not only done far better, but has lead to more people being happy, productive, and living decent lives.

Even a society that looks like it is functioning, can be dysfunctional. A society where any group of people is pushed down and kept from their rights to live is not a fully functional one.

_refugee_  ·  3665 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    A society where one group despises and attacks another for ANY reason, is not a functional one.

    You could well say that Nazi society was really functional and went amazingly.

I have whiplash. Could you please let me know if a society can be functional and hate people, or not? Are you now defining "functional" as in "achieved the aims of that society" - because the Nazis didn't quite manage that. They did somewhat lose that big ol' war. Are you defining "functional" on a scale as in "compared to how the Japanese treated the Chinese during the same war, Nazis look god damn friendly!"?

bioemerl  ·  3665 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I am defining functional in the common sense way of "doing well".

A society can do perfectly well while having issues. That doesn't mean those issues can't be worked towards being fixed.

You can look at the Nazi regime and say they did X and X and X. Which is true, but it doesn't mean that the whole holocaust thing didn't hurt their society immensely.