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briandmyers  ·  3743 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Let's talk about two things they say never to talk about:

    I don't think a woman she be forced either, but I also think its callous and... well, fucking lame to say you don't care about the fathers concerns.

Which is it though? You have to pick one, if the father is insisting that his baby be born.

You either ignore his concerns, or you force the woman. You can't have it both ways, at least, not always.





thenewgreen  ·  3743 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I said it, I think it's the woman's choice. However, to pretend that something callous and somewhat unjust isn't happening is wrong imo. It's a shitty situation and to pretend otherwise and to say things like "I really don't care" is wrong and so much of the abortion debate (on both sides) pretends that there aren't worlds of nuance at play. It's a contentious topic for a reason.... both sides realize that neither is really in the indisputable "right".

briandmyers  ·  3743 days ago  ·  link  ·  

When the other person said "I really don't care", it was in reference to what to call the blob of cells! They've corrected your misunderstanding already, but maybe it didn't register.

I think you took offense where none was given. Here's the quote :

    how much right a potential father should have to a zygote/embryo/fetus/I really don't care.
thenewgreen  ·  3743 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    I think you took offense where none was given. Here's the quote : how much right a potential father should have to a zygote/embryo/fetus/I really don't care.

I think that shows a disregard for how much right a father should have. Keep in mind that "rights" don't necessarily mean "custody" or the ability to "coerce" or "force" a women to keep the child, but the right to care, to have a voice in your caring. To be distraught or excited about the choice. These are rights too that are too easily diminished imo. Whether you like it or not, the father is a factor in this equation. Does he have the right (in my opinion) to make the ultimate choice? -No. Does he have the right to be heard, to voice his thoughts? Yes, absolutely.

same disclaimer... half a bottle of wine. Shouldn't even be at a keyboard. Cheers though and by the way, every time I eat honey, I think of you pal. -Is that odd?

I'll answer that. "yes, yes it is."