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Cumol  ·  3849 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: List of House members who were paid to oppose Net Neutrality

Could someone explain to me how this is legal in a democracy? It feels like bribing, no?

I pay you an amount of money to (possibly) change your opinion or talk louder about this subject so I can make more money afterwards?





rob05c  ·  3849 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    Could someone explain to me how this is legal

The short answer is:

1 The Constitution guarantees the right of people to petition the government.

2 The Constitution guarantees the right of people to free speech.

3 The Supreme Court recognizes campaign contributions as speech.

4 The Supreme Court recognizes corporations as "people."

Ergo, corporations have the "right" to petition the government, and to provide campaign contributions, and theoretically the two are unrelated.

Oh, it gets better. In 2009, Boehner, who is now Speaker of the House, handed out lobbyist checks on the House floor immediately before a vote.

    how this is legal in a democracy?

I would argue it isn't, by definition.

OftenBen  ·  3849 days ago  ·  link  ·  

You have to change your frame of reference.

You are a Senator, I'm a lobbyist. We both want the same thing right? More protection against those evil hackers, a more secure internet, (No more of those 'trolls' making a mess of your attempts at internet-advertising), and of course the unspoken desire for more profit. So let's go out to lunch and talk about these things, weekly. No no, I got the bill, don't worry about it.

Senator, you really seem like you know what's going on, my firm would like to make a small donation to make sure that straight shooters like you don't have to worry about funding your next campaign. (It's what, 2 years away? 4? Coming up anyway) Thanks so much for coming out with me, I'll see you again next week, tee time is at 1.

rob05c  ·  3849 days ago  ·  link  ·  

    You are a Senator, I'm a lobbyist. We both want the same thing right?

The problem with this situation, is that corporations are not people. They are representatives for their owners, the wealthy. A government in which corporations vote is not a Democracy, it is a Plutocracy.

Unfortunately, the Supreme Court disagrees.

OftenBen  ·  3848 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I'm not saying it's a good thing, I'm saying that's how it happens. Every good villain is the hero of his own story.

not_important  ·  3849 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Here is SMBC's explanation of how this is legal: http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3344

A (bad) analogy would be to how in some East Slavic countries you tip your waitress before you get served.

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