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mk  ·  3888 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Is Stripping A "Bad Thing"?

I've known two women that have stripped. They were both fiercely intelligent human beings. During the time that they stripped they used a lot of drugs. From what they related to me, many strippers are using drugs and/or alcohol while they are working.

Speaking personally, I don't think I could dance naked in front of strangers or on their laps for money without some self-medication.

That makes it difficult for me to think that it isn't often a bad thing for the person practicing it. I doubt there is a universal truth to be found here, but there maybe be some patterns that are difficult to dismiss.





alpha0  ·  3888 days ago  ·  link  ·  

The "universal truth" appears to be this: The 'shameful' is harmful. If x is shameful to you, do not do it.

mk  ·  3887 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Although I am in the 'stripping is shameful camp', I cannot say with confidence that everyone would feel that way. There are so many behaviors that were once widely considered shameful that no longer are. Although I cannot personally fathom it, I am willing to accept that for some individuals, they could practice it without shame.

empty_hide  ·  3880 days ago  ·  link  ·  

what is it about stripping that is shameful to you? why do you think that societies views have changed on this for the better?

mk  ·  3880 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It's not the stripping, so much as the stripping for money. I believe it's the differential in incentive between the payer and the performer that bothers me the most. There is a money-based power structure behind it that is difficult to discount.

I'm not sure if society's views have changed for the better.

alpha0  ·  3887 days ago  ·  link  ·  

(note: " .. to you, .." )

Agreed.

Everyone of us is here to find our own level ..

katakowsj  ·  3886 days ago  ·  link  ·  

It's just a job that is basically pretty crappy. Maybe there are some better forms of stripping jobs and the pay may be good, but generally not a job to boast about. Like a trash collector. I don't know many folks that would aspire to trash collecting. For some though, that crappy job fits their situation.

I worked at Mickey D's in high school. I wasn't taking pride in emptying the fryer. It was a job I was not proud of. Plain and simple. It paid terribly too.

teamramonycajal  ·  3864 days ago  ·  link  ·  

This reminds me a lot of the concept of 'job ghettos' that my mother introduced to me a few days ago.

There are a lot of jobs usually considered either crappy or low-status by the population at large where the people in it are not a representative sample in some way or another - the administrative assistants in the College of Science, where I'm a student (and graduating in two weeks), are almost entirely female; construction is almost entirely male; the surgical techs at the hospital where my mother had her surgery were almost entirely non-white; and so on.

Stripping is a crappy, low-status job (as much as the 'sex workers citizen brigade' would like to deny it, they are always going to be a low-status, crappy job viewed with disdain, in part because you need no qualifications other than anywhere from good looks to a functioning set of genitals), and it's almost entirely female.