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socialistfuck  ·  4099 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Why so few conservatives in education? (A lecture)

I think the solution is to nationalize higher education and get private money out of it.





b_b  ·  4099 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I've never liked that idea, because it would leave us with a situation like in Europe where higher education is rationed. The US is unique in that one always has a second chance to get more/better education to improve one's circumstances. This is a result of paying to go to school. I'm no fan of for profit colleges, but I do think there is a lot of value that results directly from having to fund you own education.

socialistfuck  ·  4099 days ago  ·  link  ·  

I've never seen any evidence to support the claim that higher education in Europe is rationed. And a cost barrier to higher education is innately classist.

b_b  ·  4099 days ago  ·  link  ·  

In Germany, for example, students are admitted into a university track when they are teenagers. If they aren't admitted then, there is little or no chance to go to university later in life. That is rationing.

socialistfuck  ·  4099 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Is that necessary? Just because higher education becomes public doesn't mean you have to ration it. But even if we stuck to rationing higher education is it really worse than what we have now? Crushing student debt that amounts to over $1 trillion dollars?

b_b  ·  4099 days ago  ·  link  ·  

People go to college just to go to college. That is why there is crushing student debt. Don't get a PhD in English lit at a cost of $100,000 if you plan on being debt free in your life. Even expensive colleges are investments when purchased smartly.

socialistfuck  ·  4099 days ago  ·  link  ·  

"People go to college just to go to college."

Some do, sure. Do you have any statistics for what % of students are doing that?

"Don't get a PhD in English lit at a cost of $100,000 if you plan on being debt free in your life."

I don't think it's right to restrict what type of education one wants to perform based on what they are expecting to be paid after they graduate. A lot of education that may not be considered economically viable can still be useful.

b_b  ·  4099 days ago  ·  link  ·  

"Free is when you don't have to pay for nothing or do nothing. We want to be free!"

-Frank Zappa (from teenage wind)

socialistfuck  ·  4099 days ago  ·  link  ·  

Go on.