That incident is long past and really only interesting as an inflection point where I didn't find hanging out here often fun anylonger. Maybe klein has it and after I left people started to take his shit seriously but I was gone by then. He was doing the "I'm not saying what's right or wrong but don't you think it's unfair for men that xxxxxxx" soft peddle thing week after week when I started calling him out. I don't even remember what his user name was but went he was a lawyer in DC who was into kung fu. He also liked guns if I remember right. This isn't the pain point to dig into if you want to save Hubski, at least I don't think it is but it's a funny thing to get called out about after all the bullshit I've seen people put up with here.