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I was defeated in an argument with a Salvadoran who said tortillas aren't bread "tortilla is tortilla." Really a foolproof argument. I realized I lost a long time later. I don't know where all this bread talk is coming from. Just reminded me of losing a dumb playful argument about the definition of flat bread that I was sure I won before it began Sorry. I'm kinda checked out lately. I'm sure your bread is delicious Might show off my loaves of stale white bread in the future Can they go stale before molding? Like rock hard? Science must know