The appeal for conversational podcasts, aka "Two Dudes Talking" genre, is that it's people you like discussing things you find interesting. Good conversational podcasts are like good hubski discussions, except in audio form. I prefer the more topical podcasts wherein the hosts discuss articles or news that I have(n't) heard about. What so many conversation-y podcasts don't understand, is that a conversation is generally awful to listen back to. I have at times recorded interviews I did, and usually more than half of the time is uninteresting to listen to despite it being a good conversation from the perspective of those having it. So I only listen to some well-edited conversational podcasts. No crosstalking, no breathing, no reverb because the host did not put more effort in than "let's buy a Yeti", and for the love of god let people finish their thoughts instead of continually interrupting. Accidental Tech Podcast and Hello Internet are particularly well-edited IMO.