Thanks kb. I went the wrong way with my response because I didn't want to bring all this shit up again, and so I was a dick to cgod. Glad you laid it out for me. I just don't have the patience to fight willfully ignorant blanket statements about how "bad" Obama was. On top of everything, all the problem people associate with the ACA are due to the parts that the Republicans stripped out of the plan! If the original plan had been enacted as written, the checks and balances would still be in place, and the whole program would've worked better. Now the Republicans are whining about how poorly the ACA works, after they took three of the wheels off, the clutch, and poured sugar in the gas tank!! Obama should get credit for how well it works despite Republican shenanigans! And on top of that: This is what everybody fails to understand. There are twenty million more people insured today than have ever been insured before, solely because of the ACA. And prices are going up, on average, 2-3% this year. (Except in Trump's cherry-picked state of AZ, because they started below market value, didn't have any increases to account for inflation, and are making ALL the increases this year to catch up with everyone else's rate structure.) In what program, anywhere in the world, can you add 20 million of the sickest and uninsured people to a healthcare plan, and have the rate adjustments two years later be 2-3%?!? That is a FUCKING WIN right there, my friends. ... health care costs aren't going down, but ... The fact that 20 million people have health insurance that didn't should count for something.