1) Righteous burn.

2) One man's history is another man's notoriety.

3) Your choice to take our disdain for the mustang personally is exactly that - your choice.

The fox body mustang was and is a piece of shit. However, to say everything that era was shit is revisionist; GM was at a suckitude nadir back then and Dodge was bleedin' on fire.

Nobody has said jack about your Scion - and most of the opinions here have been solicited, not volunteered. And by all means - continue loving every car ever made. But I'm here to tell ya - I've forgotten more about cars than most people will ever know. I have the wet weight of five engines committed to memory. I can wire the plugs for four different V-8s without having to consult a manual. AND THERE ARE BAD CARS IN THE WORLD.

My first car was a '66 Falcon Futura. It was my grandmother's. She got it because the '66 Mustang convertible she bought was so uncomfortable that she traded it back after a week. It was like this, only in a wretched spidercracked maroon with cream top.

It was an execrable piece of shit. It had a three-speed column shift. It had four wheel drum brakes. Its handling was not so different from a bass boat's. And I regretted, every day, that it was not a '66 Mustang convertible.

HOWEVER

Another kid in my class had a '66 Mustang convertible and that piece-of-shit Falcon was faster and handled better. it was a unibody, for one. It weighed about 800 lbs less for another. But both cars had their asses handed to them - straight, twisties or braking - by my got-it-free ex-lawn-ornament RX-4.

Maybe they're better now. They can't be worse. I acknowledge all the wonderfulness of the fact that Ford is making modern V8s and Chevy isn't. There might be a point in my life where I build an AC Cobra replica, in which case a gutted mustang is where things start. That'd be all right.

But just 'cuz you like 'em doesn't mean I have to. I've worked on 'em, I've driven 'em, and I've suffered under Christian Walters' insufferable douchebaggery enough that i'd rather drive a Trabant than a Mustang (his best buddy had a '67 Camaro - fuck them both).

Know what? The earliest 'vettes were fuggly, too, and I don't care if that would hurt Zora Duntov's feelings. How many times do you think Ferruchio's rigs were compared to tractors?