Okay, we need to address this wall thing, because it's legitimately crazy.

Russia had walls to keep people in, and it was pretty darn effective.

... is this really the comparison you want to be drawing? I can't help but think one would want to distance themselves from a despotic dictatorship with literally tens of millions of dead and displaced people. But let's put that aside, it's not really what we're here to talk about.

I'm not even going into the fact that a wall that covers almost 2,000 miles is expensive. Nor will I mention the same of the also proposed 3,900 mile Canadian border wall. I will, however, mention that you guys tried it in 2006 in Texas, and it turned out to be an over-budget nightmare that was only sort of completed and doesn't even work. This video (though from a documentary with an obvious slant) shows people getting over the border wall just fine.

2000 miles is completely indefensible from any realistic standpoint. You don't have the manpower or the money to make it happen - no one does.

However, that's not even the biggest problem. The biggest problem is the people you're trying to build a wall to keep out.

Because they're refugees. The only reason they're not classified as such by the US government is because it means that they would have to actually deal with them you guys also don't want to take many Syrian refugees, and are shirking even in that duty). Don't believe me? I have sources. Atlantic {UN Refugee Agency](http://www.unhcr.org/5630c2046.html). They're also not just Mexican, they're from all over "central america" ( a political term, not a geographic one).

So you're basically saying that you want to put up a wall to prevent all of these people who are often fleeing for their lives just so that you don't have to deal with the monetary consequences. If that's fine with you, then I can't really argue with you, i guess.

There's a reason why your border to the south is so porous btw, and it comes down to money again. Your entire food production system is based on the use of illegal immigrants and migrant workers. You like cheap food? Sure, everyone does. If you took away all of that cheap labour with little to no safety standards then you would be looking at a SERIOUS increase in the cost of your food. Strawberries would become incredibly expensive, for example.

Immigrant workers aren't a "cheap labor" alternative, as so many Americans think. They are the only labor available to do many unskilled jobs, and if they were eliminated, most would not be replaced. Instead, whole sectors of the economy would shrivel, and with them, many other jobs often filled by more skilled Americans.

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Just raise the wage, you say, and an American would take the job? Not necessarily, and very unlikely if it's a farm job. Farmers have been trying that — for decades. They raise the wage. They recruit in inner cities. They offer housing and transport and countless other benefits. Still, no one shows — or stays on the job, which is outdoors and grueling and must get done, no matter how hot or cold or otherwise unpleasant the weather. And of course, at some point, there are limits to how high a wage a grower or dairy farmer can pay before he is forced out of business by a farmer who produces the same commodity in another country, where the labor actually is cheap.

http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2011/08/17/could-farms-survive-without-illegal-labor/without-immigrant-labor-the-economy-would-crumble

An example of what happens when you don't have cheap labor - You get undercut.

So what I'm saying is that a wall is not only unfeasible and indefensible, It's also a human rights violation and a recipe for potential economic collapse.

Now, I feel for you, your political situation in the US right now is a real disaster. However, you gotta be real with yourself about both sides of this picture.