Yeah. I guess I should have been more clear when I said I didn't want to focus on spirituality or metaphysics. I have no problem discussing them as concepts, for example comparing and contrasting various religions' ideas on death, the human condition, etc. There's no denying that your absolutely right that there can be some very compelling discussions that can come about when talking about those ideas and I wouldn't shy away from those conversations at all. What I more meant to come across as saying is that I'm uncomfortable about talking about spirituality and metaphysics as if they are tangible and verifiable. I am uncomfortable discussing the immeasurable as if it were measurable because I find that it is hard to keep the conversations credible and realistic. Re-reading both what you quoted and what I just wrote, I wonder if I'm making sense in trying to convey how I feel about both types of conversations and how and why I view them differently.