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user-inactivated  ·  3523 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: What Kendrick Lamar, Drake, and Kanye West Say About the Black Experience in America  ·  

It's weird to me because you're saying "we" and "us" and "people" but you can't get specific to save your life. It's everybody's job, but to you it's also nobody's job.

    Yeah, reddit also has a sub about pics of dead kids, beating women, and so on. They are universally shunned, and nowhere in the regular part of the nation are such ideals common. Nobody considers them as good.

Don't give me that shit, they all have large numbers of subscribers and it's the "front page of the internet." Please tell me who "nobody" is, again, because you're speaking in swaths. If they were universally shunned, they'd get shut down, and they wouldn't have subscribers to begin with. Can't have one when the other exists.

    When I hear about someone gunned down on the street, I think of things like the steriotypes that drive people to actions, I think of the complex interactions between police and the people they are over. I think of how and why these things happen

THEY HAPPEN BECAUSE THEY THINK WE'RE LESS THEN HUMAN, HOLY SHIT. Do I really have to pull out the numerous, NUMEROUS texts and emails found amongst police that LITERALLY call Black people animals? The Telemundo guy that compared Michelle Obama to an ape from Planet of the Apes? That's not Reddit, Bio, you can't really cover that shit up!

    "You aren't black, you don't know" is not a valid argument, and never will be.

BUT YOU DON'T FUCKING KNOW AND YOU NEVER WILL. It's easy to play the "reasonable man with facts and knowledge!", it happened on Hubski before and I fucking left for a while because of it. You will. literally. Never. Know. I understand this is upsetting: it's the same reason #blackgirlsrock got coopted with #whitegirlsrock, or why #blacklivesmatter got coopted with #alllivesmatter. It's like telling me all about riding a rollercoaster when you've never been on one in your life.

    See: holocaust, slavery, and other situations. When people have all freedom taken from them and are treated as if nothing about them matters, as if every part of them is scum and nobody should give them any moral consideration. That is what an animal is. What a non-human is. Cases such as how race is in modern society are not cases of treating anyone like an animal.

Okay, so you are being purposefully facetious and pedantic. At least we got that out of the way.

    People don't change without information, people don't change without someone pushing the right button that inspires it. People aren't going to change if you simply expect them to, or think they will out of human decency.

Every person that's stepped up to make change got shot, lol. I've done my part.

    It's not up to society to change to their whims, it's up to them to show and prove their morality is the right one.

Oh my God. Acceptance is not "proving that my gayness is the right morality." It's "fucking accept my gayness and stop being a bigoted piece of shit." It''s not "I need to prove that you should treat me better as a Black person", it's "you better fucking treat me better as a Black person".

    However, when you are taking time out of your day to correct someone, and scold them for something like considering a rapper flawed, do so in a constructive and progressive way, not in a demeaning and regressive one.

Ah, the Common perspective. The rapper, since I'm ABSOLUTELY SURE you've never heard of him. All "hug the white people so they feel better about themselves, that'll fix things." Maaaaybe in hell.

    I would be willing to bet money that not a single person in furgeson considers black people as less than human.

You'd probably lose that bet.

REAAAALY think you would.

    My point isn't that such things do not exist, but instead that ranting and raving about how society treats black people as inhuman and how wrong society is will fix nothing, accomplish nothing, and lead to a society that is stuck in a ditch while yelling at each other.

Alright, well you've bitched enough. What's your idea of fixing and accomplishing things, Bio? The riots aren't enough? The protests aren't enough? Asking to be treated like an equal, to not get stopped for walking, or eating, or breathing while Black, that's too much for you? It doesn't accomplish anything? Then what does? Because you need to stop putting the onus of discrimination on the people that have been systematically oppressed.