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Meriadoc  ·  3580 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Americans have nothing to learn from Nazis

And I think you make a fair point. I definitely wobble back and forth on the issue of something so dangerous and so vile and wrong being protected just as much, but I simply can't make a case for truly protecting something that can lead to another genocide, especially during a time when anti-semitism is at its peak since WWII.

I believe freedom of speech is vitally important and to be protected, and writing a law saying "except in the case of...." is also wrong. What I don't understand is truly following through on that conviction in cases like 700 cops escorting 45 nazis because of their rights to it, but you can't give cops to give a fuck enough to actually address actual issues or complaints or calls for help in the same type of neighborhoods. It gives the impression (unfortunately the correct one) that cops care more about protecting the rights of controversial groups than actually protecting and serving the communities they're in.

I agree with you 100% on the political and theoretical side of this, but direct action and application is a different story, namely in law enforcement. If we have the year we just had with the horrifying militarization of police to harm and vilify minorities, where no change is being made to correct it, and the police are willing to turn blind eye after blind eye to the injustices of their departments, why aren't they turning a blind eye to the crimes against nazis? Especially when these groups exist solely as hate groups in the first place.

My point is the country doesn't need to enact some law limiting free speech to what the government deems good and bad, but it needs to directly address the issues of hate groups. They have every right to do and say as they please, as long as what they do and say are not an attempt to limit the rights of others, which is precisely what nazis do. The actions don't exist in legislation, but in the enactment of proper police work. If you want to march nazis don't a poor neighborhood, they sure as fuck better be serving that neighborhood without flaw after the fact, if not before, lest it looks like the government cares about nazis and not, say, the people of Ferguson, or like caring about minorities is a minor concern for police countrywide, or that the rights and values our government espouses are reserved exclusively for white people, or indirectly condone nazism by giving them the stage instead of the minorities, and then recruit more nazis. And the problem is all those things are already happening or beginning to happen in the eyes of the people. So, no. Don't limit the rights of anybody, just don't apply the rights selectively and only for the oppressing group.