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OftenBen  ·  3692 days ago  ·  link  ·    ·  parent  ·  post: Hey, let's have a discussion about eating meat

Thank you for finally talking.

The mexico thing is not a joke. If you're a vegetarian who doesn't farm 100% of their own food, people are suffering, earning slave-wages and living in intolerable conditions so that you can eat. And they have for generations, and in greater numbers than you can fathom.

These ants I'm talking about could do any number of other things for their sustenance. They could farm fungus like some species, or else turn to foraging and raiding other nests. But they choose to enslave other species, husband them and protect them to those of us who understand that, but you would say enslaved and born to die. I'm not defining us by the actions of ants, but I am illustrating that plenty of species use others to thrive, and gain evolutionary advantage by it.

GM meat is something you have to discuss now, sorry to burst your bubble. It's expensive to produce, but it's being made, and more of it exists now than did a year ago, and the same will be true next year, and the year after that.

Your last point, about 'true conservationism' is the 'no true scotsman' fallacy. Refine your argument without it and we'll address wildlife management in a mature manner.