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I agree with nearly everything you say, and I say "nearly everything" only because I wasn't reading closely, not because I disagree. The problem is that everyone here is fully willing and able to have a nuanced discussion about eating meat, but we're having this discussion because one person insisted on having a binary discussion about eating meat. It's gonna be challenging for anyone to learn anything from anyone else because most of us agree on the gray area and we aren't committed enough to convince or be convinced as to its shade.