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Nice interview Cadell, good to hear you on yet another medium. -Do you ever sleep? I didn't read the NASA study but it sounds like it's taking something extremely complex and attempting to simplify it in to four? basic data points, is that right? If we are beyond the "tipping point," then what good could internet mobilization of the "commoners" do to prevent "civilizations collapse?" -We may go down fighting, but we'll still go down. Same point with Solar, if it's the 2020's when we have grid parody, isn't that too late?