I also didn't really appreciate the ignorantly sarcastic tone. I generally like satire but this isn't satire. It's a whine. Regardless, I feel the point about college kids, plus being away from home, plus alcohol/drug experimentation is a valid one. College kids generally don't make the best decisions. I didn't make the best decisions. This recent conversation delves into that a bit It's not a matter of treating people as grown ups, but making certain decisions based on how things work. We know that college age kids typically don't make the best decisions all the time. There are some people who are an exception to this generalization and there are circumstances that are exceptions. But generally, you are a lot more likely to have 100+ people party, with drugs and alcohol, with fights or bad decisions being made in college than you are outside of college. So encouraging firearms within these groups, based on the knowledge that college kids are more likely to make poor choices, especially when fucked up, doesn't seem like the most educated decision. I understand your point about "well they are allowed to have them everywhere but campus." If it works like that - if the kids who already carry guns are now carrying the guns to school - that might be okay. But I don't know if that is the case. We might see an increase in the number of people carrying because of this expansion. When I was living in lower Manhattan, I carried pepper spray. When I got an editing gig in Brooklyn, I carried peppers spray and a taser. At night, I would walk with one hand in my purse holding the taser. In case you don't know, guns cannot be carried in NYC. So I felt generally safe and felt that generally speaking, the pepper spray and taser would probably do an okay job. If guns could have been carried in NYC, I most likely would've learned how to shoot and gotten myself a gun. So if suddenly 5% of the students are carrying guns, chances are there is going to be an increase in the number of kids who typically wouldn't carry a gun. The more people who have guns, the more necessary it is for others to have them. Eventually everyone has a gun and while the number of school shooters may go down, the number of accidents, suicides by guns, and bad decisions turning violent or deadly may rise. That is my concern with gun expansion laws.